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35-40 Maynard
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Does anyone here shoot or use a 35-40 Maynard? I am thinking of a light singleshot hunting rifle build and love 35 caliber. I was toying with a necked down 38-55 but then saw the 35-40 Maynard in my lovingly tattered Cartridges or the World. If anyone knows, i am curious as to case length of the Maynard round. Thank you, MikeC
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Boomer,
As you will note, in your COW, the 35-40 Maynard case length is listed at 2.060. COW lists the base dia at 0.400", but, Current users of this chambering simply neck down 38-55 cases. Dies are avail from CH4D.
I, too like the 35 cals. Main modern hunt rifle is 358Win.
Also -I have been sitting on an as new finished blued Lilja Octagon, 10 twist barrel threaded and chambered in 35-50 Maynard to fit a Brg BPCR. This one uses 30-40 Krag brass full length necked up/blown out. May or may not finish this one what with many other projects going in other calibers.....
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As beltfed says the case length is 2.060" and the original case head was .400. Cases can be swaged down from 38/55 to make original style cases, whether the '73 or '82 style. The original bullet diameter was .366-.367' diameter.
The modern version uses the standard 38/55 case sized down tapering from the rim to the neck. The modern version uses .358" diameter bullets. I picked up an original 35/40 barrel last year but have not gotten anything ready to go shoot it except for some formed brass.
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Steve Baldwin (Baldwin Sights & gunsmithing) shoots a 'modern' (38-55 case) 35-40 Maynard as his BPCR rifle and is a Master-class shooter, so is good out to 547yd on rams. Steve gave me some of his load data if you would like it. Sage offers a 340gr 35cal bullet mold for fast-twist (10") barrels. DZ Arms in OKC has Steve's 35-40 reamer these days.
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My COW is 3rd ed (purchased in 1972 when I was 12) and has nothing about case length only that "the case dimensions are not identical but ammunition can be made up from 38-55 brass just as with the 35-30". Just for fun and something to look at, I necked one of the starline full length 38-55's to the 1 3/4" hgt and seated a 210gr cast. It looks exactly like i recreated a 35win....I can't find my sample 35win to compare it too.
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35 Win is longer than 30 US but can be made from 30 US by stretching them a bit, necking up and fire forming. Nice hunting round with lead bullets (slightly anachronistic) or jacketed (a bit more correct.) Some of the worst brass Bertram ever made was 35 Win. Off-center undersized flash holes. Heads offset from the bodies. Ugly stuff.
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BACO was selling 40-70 SS brass made from stretched Krag brass, which should be easy to squoze down to 35 Win.
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I've got a 35-40 built from 38-55-2.08 brass . It was built by Mike Lewis about 10-15 years ago with a 10 twist barrel and it shoots very well. I shoot a paul jones 345 grain NASA bullet in it with 46 grains of Goex .I have a set of ch4d dies to make the brass but don't use them to load them.
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Steve Baldwin just finished a 35-40 for me with aprox 2.085 chamber (his reamer) formed from ww 38-55.
I currently working up loads with 46 grs 1 1/2 swiss and a 340 +/- mini groove prolate bullet with different alloy mixes.
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This brings up a interesting question! Does BPCR actually allow a 32/40 size case head in a original 35/40 Maynard cartridge or are just ignoring it? Does BPCR have rules conserning cartridges?
It wouldn't be allowable in ASSRA or ISSA as a Traditional chambering.
I've shot the 32/35 Maynard/Stevens, since 1987 and have swaged the case heads for it, because I wanted to have a real original cartridge. I don't think the Traditional class was even started at that time but, original should be "Original".
I look at it this way, if you a collector would think it ok to rechamber a Maynard to the larger case head then it might be ok.
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NRA is pretty liberal (ha....... bet you thought you would never read that
) on cartridges and how they are named. Am sure if you came up with something truly weird, they might look at it. Do we truly know that there wasn't a 35-40 based on the 32-40/38-55 case head back in the day? Also, with brass availability on so many old cartridges being a problem, think erring on the side of being liberal about cases is a good thing.
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I know the NRA wouldn't allow the 35-55 Maynard cartridge because of the oversize case head. They allowed the 35-40 and 40-60 because you could find drawings of a small case head on the I believe 1873 model.
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Gosh, I hope the deer dont care
. I just want to build a fun still-hunting rifle. When I have Dave make a reamer, I will see if I can make one that this bunch could use if needed. Running a 35Rem die down 9/16" of an inch on the 38-55 case is as simple as it gets. I plan to use cast in the 200gr range. I seated a 210gr (360-210B from Tom at Accurate) which really makes a nice looking cartridge.
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I realise this thread is a year old now but.................
Where would I look to purchase a reamer in this 'modern' (38/55) 35/40 ?
I have 38/55 and 32/40 at this stage so figure I'd like to keep my next project simple
and stay with this case. I have a few heavy 357 molds (35 Whelen) so there's a start as well.
Hopefully I can purchase a reamer and have it sent over here to Oz as buying a barrel in The States and having it cut then sent over seems to be a problem.
Any help here would be very much appreciated,
Thanks Ian.
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Ian - Talk to Steve Baldwin (of Baldwin Sights -
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). Steve had no problem loaning me the reamer for my barrel, though he may be a bit reticent to send it to Oz. But am sure he or DZ would be happy to tell you where it came from. My guess it is a Dave Manson reamer
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. DM, who will pretty much grind you any reamer you ask for, has done many custom reamers for folks like Dan Theodore over the years. So will PTG, but their wait-time can be months long.
Like you, I wanted to stay with 38-55 brass for both my 35-40 and 32-40. Am glad I did, as it is easy & inexpensive to buy and takes little effort to resize.
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