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Jan 26th, 2016 at 9:07pm
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just got JW Sidle scope and would like a bit more info about it. Like why so many screws?  It has 2 sliders, one adjusts the focus, not sure what the other does.  6 screws along one side (one screw is missing). Two sets of two screws at right angles from each other.   Its .625 diameter and 22 " long.  According to Stroebel, it looks like a #6 "special. 

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Reply #1 - Jan 27th, 2016 at 12:58am
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Each set screw should hold a lens cell but, one will hold the + hair.

One of the sliders should adjust the focus of the + hair and the other will adjust the focus of the target and parallax. The closest  to the ocular, should be the + hair adjustment.

Can we get a picture of the sliders?

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Reply #2 - Jan 27th, 2016 at 8:31am
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Congratulations!  John W. Sidle's scopes were very well regarded "back then"; and my experience with one very similar to yours mounted on a Schoyen percussion Sharps (with an undocumented but believable oral history) bore that out.

Unfortunately, I let that outfit go as part of getting my only Pope.  But I can back Frank up about what the screws are for.  Also, as I too had a messing screw (easily lost, those little buggers!), I can attest that a replacement is easily made IF you can get access to a jeweler's lathe; as I remember, the thread is 2-56.

Good luck and good shooting!

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Reply #3 - Jan 27th, 2016 at 9:36am
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Here is a shot of the sliders and the "group" of screws.   one of the slider covers is missing.  I would like to clean the inside up a bit, but am hesitant to take things loose .
  

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Reply #4 - Jan 27th, 2016 at 11:34am
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I'm assuming that the optics have dirt on them? If not, I'd leave it alone. 

If your heart is in good shape, you could disassemble it but, about the only way, is to push the whole inside lens assembly out one end (probably the objective end) and hope that nothing binds up in the process. If the objective slides free, you can take that out and push the other lens cells out the ocular.

If you decide to do that, PM me and I'll give you some hints on it.

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Reply #5 - Jan 27th, 2016 at 11:38am
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Sidle scopes are wonderful, and a very nice addition to any old gun, or old scope collection! I keep an assortment of tiny screws I scrounged from all sorts of old gun junk. Whenever I see old scopes really cheap, I buy them just to scrounge screws and lenses. Finding those little screws can be a real problem!
  

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Reply #6 - Jan 27th, 2016 at 4:38pm
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If your heart is in good shape, you could disassemble it but, about the only way, is to push the whole inside lens assembly out one end (probably the objective end) and hope that nothing binds up in the process. If the objective slides free, you can take that out and push the other lens cells out the ocular.

While Frank's cautious approach cannot be faulted, my experience (which, admittedly, was back in my much younger, less restrained days) was that the disassembly is easy and straightforward.  First, I removed all the screws and laid them out in order.  Next, the eyepiece was unscrewed and the ocular lens tube fell right out.  Then, using a close-fitting wood rod, the other tubes were pushed out the objective end.  Last but not least, as each tube came out - and each did so smoothly - its screw was reattached; and, like the screws, the tubes were laid out in order and pointing in the right direction.

Once out, I noted that the inner tubes were all of brass and chemically-blackened.  So as not to disturb that finish, I gently used only a very soft brush and a neutral solvent (literally saliva) on a cotton ball or q-tip.

After cleaning, which included a wipe inside the outer tube, the inner tubes fit even more smoothly and the scope was easily reassembled; indeed, the only tricky part was orienting the tubes visually and reinserting them with such a light touch that at worst I had to use a toothpick to align the respective screw holes

Last note: My tubes were relatively heavy; the cross-hairs (which I assumed to be original) were wire; and the lenses were solidly mounted.  In short, my opinion is that Sidle scopes were made to be "home serviced", just do so with care and keep things in order.

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Reply #7 - Jan 27th, 2016 at 6:17pm
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i did pm Frank to clarify   if he meant  " if your heart is healthy enough for scope repair"  or "  only the pure of heart may   attempt this" 

I'm in good shape, but as far as pure of heart .............

I may go at it early in the day when the patience is highest.
  

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