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Re: .22 LR High Wall
Reply #15 - Jan 18th, 2016 at 7:56am
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I have owned Winchester Nigh Walls with the close-coupled and scheutzen style double-set triggers but my favorite has always been the single-set trigger.

I'll bet this rifle weighs a bit more than average with a No.3 barrel in .22!  Very nice find!

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Reply #16 - Jan 22nd, 2016 at 4:18pm
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Just out of curiosity, but are 22 Long rimfire cartridges still manufactured? It is my understanding that although the chamber length for the Long and the Long rifle, is the same. The actual twist is different between the rounds and that Long Rifle does not shoot as accurately as the original Long round if used in the earlier  models chambered for the long round. Undecided
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Reply #17 - Jan 22nd, 2016 at 5:11pm
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CCI still makes 22 long.  I think it's a little tricky to find though.
  
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Reply #18 - Jan 22nd, 2016 at 7:33pm
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My club only last year started holding a match that would allow that rifle. It really does matter where you live because till just now that rifle would not interest me in the least.. And that coming from a guy who loves antique AMERICAN made rifles. Handsome rifle.
  
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Reply #19 - Jan 22nd, 2016 at 8:06pm
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Just out of curiosity, but are 22 Long rimfire cartridges still manufactured? It is my understanding that although the chamber length for the Long and the Long rifle, is the same. The actual twist is different between the rounds and that Long Rifle does not shoot as accurately as the original Long round if used in the earlier  models chambered for the long round. Undecided
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I could find only two versions of the 22 Long that were loaded by CCI, a HV loading showing a muzzle velocity @ 1215 fps, and a CB loading showing a muzzle velocity @ 710 fps, with both versions using 29 grain bullets.

The old WRA catalogs I have show that Winchester loaded the 22 Long cartridges using 35 grain weight solid-nose bullets or 32 grain hollow-points, so the CCI Long cartridges are currently using a bullet weight that WRA used to use for the 22 Short.

Campbells first singleshot book shows that WRA used a 1:24 twist for both the 22 Long and 22 Short, and shows a 1:16 twist for both the 22 Long Rifle and the 22 Extra Long.
Interestingly, the book also shows that for the 22 BB cartridge, Winchester used a 1:20 twist.

On a side note, I always get a chuckle when I see the old WRA cartridge listing for the 22 Short "Spotlight" cartridge, and wonder if those cartridges were any better for the purpose of jacklight shooting.     Grin
  

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Reply #20 - Jan 22nd, 2016 at 10:34pm
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I understand the early .22 long rifle ctg. for rifles were not crimped...the reasoning was accuracy was better.  When repeaters and revolvers were chambered for this ctg. problems arose from bullets being pulled and left stuck in chambers..crimping was added to all ctgs. to eliminate this.
  
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Reply #21 - Jan 23rd, 2016 at 8:00am
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BP wrote on Jan 22nd, 2016 at 8:06pm:

The old WRA catalogs I have show that Winchester loaded the 22 Long cartridges using 35 grain weight solid-nose bullets or 32 grain hollow-points, so the CCI Long cartridges are currently using a bullet weight that WRA used to use for the 22 Short.

Will guess that is simply because they sell many more .22 Short cartridges then .22 Long and is simpler to just cast and load the one bullet. I see bricks of .22 Short ammo at the LGSs periodically and do not recall ever seeing .22 Long.
  

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Reply #22 - Jan 23rd, 2016 at 11:11am
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Chalk and BP,
Thanks for the information, I haven't seen a box of .22 Long here in Britain for several decades past. It would seem there is a good market for .22 Long Rifle liners to convert these old rifles chambered for .22 Long cartridges to Long Rifle.  Roll Eyes

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Re: .22 LR High Wall
Reply #23 - Jan 23rd, 2016 at 12:08pm
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SSShooter wrote on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 8:00am:
I see bricks of .22 Short ammo at the LGSs periodically and do not recall ever seeing .22 Long.


Sure wish I saw bricks of .22 Short around here! I have a couple rifles chambered for .22 Shorts, and buy what I can find, but it's harder to find here.
  

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