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bnice Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1845 Location: Iowa Joined: Nov 30^th, 2006	Re: 200 yard cartridge advice sought Reply #15 - Jan 15^th, 2016 at 9:20am	Print Post
	have you thought of getting the barrel recut instead of lined. if it is a .25 I would think someone could rebore and rifle it to a larger cal.


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gunlaker Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2257 Location: lower mainland, B.C. Joined: Dec 13^th, 2010	Re: 200 yard cartridge advice sought Reply #16 - Jan 15^th, 2016 at 10:22am	Print Post
	If you need .40 or greater thn I'd also vote for the .40-65. My Shiloh in that cartridge with a 1:16 twist is excellently accurate with the Saeco #740 bullet. The brass is very easy to make which is a benefit. If you go with a .40-65 then you might want to have a look at the Shiloh chamber specs. Chris.


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Marlene Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 272 Joined: Oct 30^th, 2015	Re: 200 yard cartridge advice sought Reply #17 - Jan 15^th, 2016 at 10:34am	Print Post
	No love for the .40-50 Sharps Bottleneck?


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KAF Ex Member	Re: 200 yard cartridge advice sought Reply #18 - Jan 15^th, 2016 at 10:52am	Print Post
	40/65 made from 45-70 brass, readily avalible, easy to form by just using a 40-65 die. good for 500 yds if need be. Might be a bit punishing for bench but what the heck. Rebarrel is cost effective instead of boring, or relining. I'd have a 40/65 and a 32. Best of both worlds..... Sounds like a swap barrel CPA>>>>>>>>>>>


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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11439 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: 200 yard cartridge advice sought Reply #19 - Jan 15^th, 2016 at 10:58am	Print Post
	Marlene wrote on Jan 15^th, 2016 at 10:34am: No love for the .40-50 Sharps Bottleneck? Looks funny. For 200 yard target shooting. a 40+ caliber is not needed. I know what the OP posted but he may not know that. Joe.

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oneatatime Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3854 Location: Rocky Mountains Joined: Oct 30^th, 2011	Re: 200 yard cartridge advice sought Reply #20 - Jan 16^th, 2016 at 12:23am	Print Post
	Joe, maybe you missed the OP's post where he said his club has a 200 yard match requiring 40 caliber or larger. A 16 twist barrel throwing 400 plus grain lead certainly is overkill for that.


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Schuetzenmiester Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 6707 Location: Cool Wet Side of WA Joined: Apr 27^th, 2008	Re: 200 yard cartridge advice sought Reply #21 - Jan 16^th, 2016 at 2:04am	Print Post
	If it is scored leaded edge, go as big as possible

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11439 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: 200 yard cartridge advice sought Reply #22 - Jan 16^th, 2016 at 2:22am	Print Post
	oneatatime wrote on Jan 16^th, 2016 at 12:23am: Joe, maybe you missed the OP's post where he said his club has a 200 yard match requiring 40 caliber or larger. A 16 twist barrel throwing 400 plus grain lead certainly is overkill for that. Read it three more times. Does not say his club has a match requiring .40 or over. Hmm.......... Joe.

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11439 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: 200 yard cartridge advice sought Reply #23 - Jan 16^th, 2016 at 2:30am	Print Post
	24 inch barrel? Short and loud. Be careful you don't start a fire. Joe

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MartiniBelgian Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1671 Location: Aarschot Joined: Jun 7^th, 2004	Re: 200 yard cartridge advice sought Reply #24 - Jan 16^th, 2016 at 2:51am	Print Post
	I'lll second the 40-50 BN idea - brass can also be made from cheap and plentiful 45-70 cases, more frugal on powder than 40-65; and plenty for 200 yd work. Heck, I even consider my 32-20 with BP good enough for 200m work!
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rkaires Frequent Elocutionist Offline No Stronger Bond Posts: 1630 Location: Dingmans Ferry, PA Joined: Oct 26^th, 2012	Re: 200 yard cartridge advice sought Reply #25 - Jan 16^th, 2016 at 8:04am	Print Post
	.40-50SS are easy to make as well from .30-40 Krag or .303 British cases. Around the same cost wise as .45-70 brass. No bottle neck to deal with if your using wads. I make mine with a tapered expander and a .40-50SS file trim die.

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rkaires Frequent Elocutionist Offline No Stronger Bond Posts: 1630 Location: Dingmans Ferry, PA Joined: Oct 26^th, 2012	Re: 200 yard cartridge advice sought Reply #26 - Jan 16^th, 2016 at 8:06am	Print Post
	westerner wrote on Jan 16^th, 2016 at 2:30am: 24 inch barrel? Short and loud. Be careful you don't start a fire. Joe

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boats Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7540 Location: Virginia Joined: Apr 23^rd, 2004	Re: 200 yard cartridge advice sought Reply #27 - Jan 16^th, 2016 at 8:41am	Print Post
	OP was not specific match required 40 + but it's a common match requirement. Assuming it's required. I shoot a lot of 200 yard club matches have for years. Have a 40/65 it's a fine caliber it's not the optional 200 yard cartridge. Too much case capacity. Also have a 38/40 and it runs out of gas at 200. If 40 is the rule and never used at longer range smaller than 40/65 would be best. Optional for 200 paper targets is 32/40 Steel 38/55. Many match scores have proved it beyond doubt. Boats


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40_Rod Frequent Elocutionist Offline Extremism in the persuit of accuracy is not a vice Posts: 4285 Location: Knoxville, TN Joined: Apr 20^th, 2004	Re: 200 yard cartridge advice sought Reply #28 - Jan 16^th, 2016 at 9:02am	Print Post
	A 40-50 Straight case has all the boiler room that you need for 200-yard work. It will also give you better load density. 40 Rod


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16039 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: 200 yard cartridge advice sought Reply #29 - Jan 16^th, 2016 at 9:35am	Print Post
	westerner wrote on Jan 16^th, 2016 at 2:22am: Read it three more times. Does not say his club has a match requiring .40 or over. Hmm.......... Joe. Just above your first reply Joe. "My club hold matches requiring 40 cal and up. Never considered the 40/50ss. I'm going to do some research on it. Thanks for the input!"

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