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Smokeless in a Ballard 38-50
Jan 8th, 2016 at 2:48pm
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I would like to work up a smokeless load for my Cody Ballard. Krieger barrel 1x14 chambered in 38-50. I have two bullets that I have been using with black powder loads. 340 gr 1.293 and a 364 gr 1.482. Plan to use 4227. Other suggestions? What's a safe load in a Ballard?
  
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Re: Smokeless in a Ballard 38-50
Reply #1 - Jan 8th, 2016 at 3:29pm
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You're talking an action made from modern steel, that's even stronger than the original forged Marlin Ballard. Not that I'd recommend any hotter loads, but it can take what the originals took. Smokeless data for the .38-55 should be a good starting point, and just start with the lower levels listed, and work up from there. 
I like Unique myself, but some people wont use it because of the small charges. I use 8.0 grs. with a 320 gr. bullet in my .38-55, and have gone up to 10.0 grs. with a lighter bullet. I think the 8.0 gr. is a good starting point. If you like slower powders, I'd look at 4759 or 4895 for it.
  
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Re: Smokeless in a Ballard 38-50
Reply #2 - Jan 8th, 2016 at 3:47pm
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OR Reloader 7?
Works great in my 38-55s
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Re: Smokeless in a Ballard 38-50
Reply #3 - Jan 9th, 2016 at 8:33am
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Thanks for the info. I would never thought of trying Unique. I have some 4759. Will give that a try also. I will let you know how it turns out.
  
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Re: Smokeless in a Ballard 38-50
Reply #4 - Jan 15th, 2016 at 10:21am
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A stiff load but shot exceptional with 350 gr bullet. 19.0 gr Alliant 300 MP. Start at 17.0 and work up, same burn rate as 4759.A 1/4 piece of tissue paper  balled up to keep powder down, use magnum primers only. You will be all over target with regular primers. Pete
  
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