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Dec 28th, 2015 at 11:01pm
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Hi all, I recently acquired a Remington Rolling Block rifle and am having the hardest time trying to identify it. I'm pretty sure it is a Model 1 but the receiver has five screws (inc. the button) and one pin (not inc. the hammer and block pins) showing on the left side. In 3 nights of internet searching I can't find one image that represents this configuration to give me an exact model number. Also, I believe it is chambered for .43 Spanish. Anybody know where I might find a barrel in 45-70? Thank you all in advance and have a safe and happy New Year.
  
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Reply #1 - Dec 29th, 2015 at 12:41am
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Remington for Denmark like this?
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Reply #2 - Dec 29th, 2015 at 12:42am
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what kind of shape is it in? how is the bore? if it is a spanish, and everything is good and tight, there is a good chance it will shoot well.
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Reply #3 - Dec 29th, 2015 at 11:44am
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Oneatatime, close but no cigar. Different rear sight and block. I believe the picture you provide shows the block that can be switched from cf to rim fire. Mine also has an extra screw just above and to the right of the button.   Nuclearcricket, the external metal is rough but not obscene while the bore has a little crust in it and the action is very tight. The rifling looks pretty good but I haven't fully cleaned it up yet. Letting some Kroil soak in the barrel for a couple of days. I'm sure it will shoot great, I was just looking for a barrel with a more common caliber. Any thoughts on re-boring? Thanks.
  
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Reply #4 - Dec 29th, 2015 at 12:55pm
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Can you post some photos of your roller?
  

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Reply #5 - Dec 29th, 2015 at 4:21pm
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take a look here, lots of different ones (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)
my No.1 that was originally a .43 whatever, has a rotary extractor like the no.5
the extractor has a slot in it and a crew from the side of the action to keep it from rotating too far

  
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Reply #6 - Dec 30th, 2015 at 12:30am
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Georgec, I will try but I'm not the most tech savvy guy out there. I realize it will answer most questions. Any help getting a photo on this blog from my iphone would be greatly appreciated.  Blindeye, good call. I thought the same thing but mine is a rifle with a 33 5/8" barrel. I thought all saddle rings were carbines. My fore stock has three bands, two of which have a crown de-bossed in them. The other has a star above a crescent moon. Other features include a solid block (no screw) and a straight pull extractor.  I'm beginning to wonder if it was a mish mash that was put together a long time ago for the metal has a very even wear pattern. Thank you all for the help. Again, anybody know of a source for barrels besides Numrich which has nothing.
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Reply #7 - Dec 30th, 2015 at 2:08am
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A star above a crescent moon is a Turkish mark.

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Reply #8 - Dec 30th, 2015 at 7:55am
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(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)  does it look like this?  if so it is most like like chambered in .43 Egyptian.

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Reply #9 - Dec 31st, 2015 at 6:34am
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I have been following this thread and went back and have reread your origional post. It kind of sounds like you have a sliding extractor #1 action. Not sure where the 5th screw comes into play. I have an Egyptian roller action. There are 2 screws that hold the trigger guard/lower tang to the action, one that holds the pin retainer, one for the extractor and one for the fireing pin. You mention an extra pin to the rear of the hammer pin, that is a limit pin to keep the main spring from comming up to far and preventing you from easily replacing the hammer. 
If you want I can snap a pic of my action and post it up on here. Its not real pretty but for its age it seems pretty solid and not pitted.
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Reply #10 - Dec 31st, 2015 at 7:56am
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yours look like this? you can see the pin above the trigger
  
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Reply #11 - Jan 1st, 2016 at 5:37pm
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Hi guy's, once again some great info has been passed along. Frnkeore, regarding the Turkish upper band, look's like I'll be throwing it in the trash and finding a replacement. I'm Armenian afterall.  Oughtsix, close but no cigar. Nice looking gun though. I wish my metal was in similar shape.  Nuclearcricket, same pin as yours but no firing pin screw. My extra screw is just above and to the right of the retainer screw. I'm pretty sure blindeye got it right with the saddle ring explanation. The hole for the left side arm of the ring holder is in the exact spot on my rifle. Damn, I wish it was still there.  Thank you all for great information. Still trying to upload a photo in dinosaur land.
  
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Reply #12 - Jan 2nd, 2016 at 12:29pm
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My receiver.
  
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Reply #13 - Jan 2nd, 2016 at 12:40pm
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Sorry for the giant photo but at least I was able to post a picture. I'm pretty sure I have a saddle ring receiver that had been revamped into a full sized rifle a long time ago. Now if I knew where to get some original components I would love to bring it back to it's original configuration.
  
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Reply #14 - Jan 2nd, 2016 at 5:39pm
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Here is a resized image...
  
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