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Hank45 Oldtimer Offline Beer is living proof that GOD loves you Posts: 506 Location: MA Joined: Jan 21^st, 2010	Unique powder Dec 20^th, 2015 at 6:04pm	Print Post
	Is it safe to load unique powder under starting load by one grain? thanks for your answer, Hank


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BP Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 8039 Location: Westside Joined: Aug 27^th, 2006	Re: Unique powder Reply #1 - Dec 20^th, 2015 at 7:40pm	Print Post
	What cartridge? Rifle, revolver or pistol? Cast or jacketed bullets?

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16700 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Unique powder Reply #2 - Dec 20^th, 2015 at 11:57pm	Print Post
	Same here. I love Unique, but would need to know all the specifics, plus what your manual says is a starting load.

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Cat_Whisperer Frequent Elocutionist Offline No 1, 9.3x74R Posts: 3930 Location: Mountains of Virginia Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: Unique powder Reply #3 - Dec 21^st, 2015 at 7:05am	Print Post
	Hank45 wrote on Dec 20^th, 2015 at 6:04pm: Is it safe to load unique powder under starting load by one grain? thanks for your answer, Hank There was an article on minimum loads for 38 Spcl. a number of years back. The risk was sticking the bullet in the barrel. They started with a mild (perhaps minimum) load and kept reducing it until the bullets stuck.

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16700 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Unique powder Reply #4 - Dec 21^st, 2015 at 11:59am	Print Post
	The first signs I got of going too light in straight walled cases was blowback around the outside of the case. Once you see the burnt gunpowder on the outside, it tells me there's not enough pressure to seal the chamber. That's when I go up to the previous load that left the outside clean.

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BP Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 8039 Location: Westside Joined: Aug 27^th, 2006	Re: Unique powder Reply #5 - Dec 21^st, 2015 at 3:09pm	Print Post
	Cat_Whisperer wrote on Dec 21^st, 2015 at 7:05am: Hank45 wrote on Dec 20^th, 2015 at 6:04pm: Is it safe to load unique powder under starting load by one grain? thanks for your answer, Hank There was an article on minimum loads for 38 Spcl. a number of years back. The risk was sticking the bullet in the barrel. They started with a mild (perhaps minimum) load and kept reducing it until the bullets stuck. Yes. The Speer #13 manual has load notations marked "DNR" meaning "do not reduce", and explains why.

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Hank45 Oldtimer Offline Beer is living proof that GOD loves you Posts: 506 Location: MA Joined: Jan 21^st, 2010	Re: Unique powder Reply #6 - Dec 21^st, 2015 at 5:51pm	Print Post
	To BP, the manual reads 3.5 my load is 2.5. my bullet weighs 33 gr. the cartridge is the .22 Hornet. Hank


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Hank45 Oldtimer Offline Beer is living proof that GOD loves you Posts: 506 Location: MA Joined: Jan 21^st, 2010	Re: Unique powder Reply #7 - Dec 21^st, 2015 at 5:54pm	Print Post
	Sorry I forgot to add , it is a cast bullet, it is shot from a Winchester low-wall rifle. Hank


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BP Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 8039 Location: Westside Joined: Aug 27^th, 2006	Re: Unique powder Reply #8 - Dec 21^st, 2015 at 7:57pm	Print Post
	Hank, Does the cast bullet happen to be the #225107 GC, or something else? What is "the manual" and edition you mention?

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Smoke Oldtimer Offline Posts: 744 Location: San Diego Joined: Feb 24^th, 2013	Re: Unique powder Reply #9 - Dec 21^st, 2015 at 11:07pm	Print Post
	Hank45 wrote on Dec 21^st, 2015 at 5:51pm: ...the manual reads 3.5 my load is 2.5. So you're not just reducing the charge 1 grain. You're also reducing it by some 30%. That's a lot. What's your objective with the reduced charge? Less noise? Less recoil?

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BP Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 8039 Location: Westside Joined: Aug 27^th, 2006	Re: Unique powder Reply #10 - Dec 22^nd, 2015 at 3:46pm	Print Post
	Don't know if Hank is trying to work up a "cat sneeze", cellar or gallery load, or not.

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Hank45 Oldtimer Offline Beer is living proof that GOD loves you Posts: 506 Location: MA Joined: Jan 21^st, 2010	Re: Unique powder Reply #11 - Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 5:33am	Print Post
	My lo-wall was made in 1898 and my reason is to keep the pressures low and because I cannot use black powder on the indoors range that I use, Hank


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colo native Oldtimer Offline Posts: 760 Location: Barren Ridge, Va Joined: Dec 27^th, 2007	Re: Unique powder Reply #12 - Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 7:31am	Print Post
	heaver crimp is needed in reduced loads---


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ballardhepburnmich ASSRA Board Member Offline Posts: 598 Location: Scotts,mi. Joined: May 20^th, 2015	Re: Unique powder Reply #13 - Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 9:54am	Print Post
	I have a low wall older than that in .22 wcf which is basicaly the same case with a .228 bullet at 45gr., that I have shot thousands of rounds of 3.5 to 4grs. Of unique in with no problem . Lee


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Hank45 Oldtimer Offline Beer is living proof that GOD loves you Posts: 506 Location: MA Joined: Jan 21^st, 2010	Re: Unique powder Reply #14 - Dec 23^rd, 2015 at 2:24pm	Print Post
	I breech seat, thank you for your answers, have a happy and safe Christmas to all and good night, Hank


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