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Dec 18th, 2015 at 12:39pm
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I was looking for a sizing die for the 28-30 Stevens and found one on the Midway site.
They also show a form dies.

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My question is what brass would you use to form brass into 28-30 Stevens, its such an oddball case?
  

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Re: 28-30 Stevens
Reply #1 - Dec 18th, 2015 at 1:44pm
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You can find a set of dies or a sizer here. I do not believe there is a case that can be easily formed for a 28-30.  Post on this site "possible;
              Huntington's sells [or did] 6 x 70R brass that can easily be sized for the 28/30 Stevens, it is very nice brass made by Norma.  Don't look for 6 x 70R brass in your cartridge books, it ain't there.   ledball " 

Bertram made brass for 28-30
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Reply #2 - Dec 18th, 2015 at 1:47pm
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The only parent brass for .28-30 is 6x70R, which was one of those long skinny cartridges made for German drillings.  Norma ran it at some point within living memory.  Huntington's had some, but the last of that was sold a couple of years ago, and at that time I was told they did not expect ever to get any more.  

Only way to get brass for the .28-30 now is Rocky Mountain Cartridge. 
  

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Reply #3 - Dec 18th, 2015 at 11:02pm
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I guess my real question is why would someone make forming dies for a cartridge when there is no other brass available from which to form a cartridge?
  

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Reply #4 - Dec 19th, 2015 at 2:26am
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Don't know what you mean by "forming dies".  The task of converting the 6x70R was done using the regular reloading set, plus a 7mm expander in a Lyman M-die to start the job by opening up the neck.  So there's no need for a special set.   And there WAS 6x70R to be had up until a couple of years ago.  And there is original brass to be found once in a while, and there is the RMC brass, which is pretty good, although a bit brittle, and there is even some Bertram floating around, I've been told.  So a few folks are still shooting the .28-30-120 cartridge, and need dies.  (I'm not shooting one yet, but will be when I get one of my barrels fitted to an action.  Maybe by Spring.)
  

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Reply #5 - Dec 19th, 2015 at 2:53am
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I have been shooting a .28-30 Stevens since 1967.  I started out with 40 original UMC cases.  Over the years I have lost 4 of those because the primer pockets got too loose.   

Maybe 8 years ago, I bought 2 boxes of Bertram.  They were too big to go into the chamber, so I ran one in a C&H FL die.  It promptly split.  I annealed the surviving 39.  I used the brick in a bucket of water method, heating with a propane torch.  When the case turned color, i knocked it off the brick & into the water.  Dried & lubed the cases. Then sized them.  Lost 3 more, but the remaining 36 have been shot dozens of times.  But I always breech-seat and never do more than decap & recap.  The Bertram cases are not pretty & the headstamps are ghastly, but they work.  If I were desperate, I would buy a couple of boxes and expect 10 % + failures on forming, after I annealed them.

I also have 40 RMC cases, made by the previous management.  They are OK, but the primer vents are tiny.  Decapping is a nuisance, so I don't use them much.

I have a nose-pour Hoch mould, 142 grains.  Mankind can go no further.  Pistol primers, 11.7 grains of SR4759 and a cork wad in the case mouth.  Seat the bullet with a plugged case.  I have a couple of Lyman moulds for the old bullets, but the Hoch mould is so much better that the Lymans are just collector pieces.

The 28-30 is my favorite cartridge (other than the 22 LR).  I have a second 28-30 in the works, but it has been in the shop for so long that I will probably be D&G by the time it is shootable.  My grandson will get it.
  
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Reply #6 - Dec 24th, 2015 at 1:48pm
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Heres A 28-30 I bought afew years back from Joe Wiest. It is the 25-35 case opened up straight taper then cut down alittle.. He built it but never did any load development . It may be the cheaper way to go, wish I had the reamer. Got A 175 and 150  gr PJ mold with the gun. Been a very accurate little cartridge. To do again, I'd leave it full length and call it a 28-35. Pete
Pic..28 short, 28 resized from 25-35, 32-40,38-55
  

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