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Ray_Newman Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 274 Location: Washington State Joined: Jul 13^th, 2004	Re: Tippmann Arms Roller Reply #15 - Dec 10^th, 2015 at 3:03pm	Print Post
	This may explain what we are seeing??: "Rifles are based on a 45/70 Spanish Infantry Rifle". Same claim of parentage is made for the .357 magnum (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) Myself, I think it is going to be a hard sell.

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11448 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Tippmann Arms Roller Reply #16 - Dec 14^th, 2015 at 7:28pm	Print Post
	Is anyone familiar with 32/20 investment cast steel? Says the barrel is drilled and tapped for a peep sight? Why not the tang? So many goofy things about the rifle and the website. Is it really made by real people? The huge long dangerous looking hammer doesn't look like a Spanish infantry rifle hammer at all. Joe.

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Schuetzenmiester Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 6707 Location: Cool Wet Side of WA Joined: Apr 27^th, 2008	Re: Tippmann Arms Roller Reply #17 - Dec 14^th, 2015 at 7:56pm	Print Post
	westerner wrote on Dec 14^th, 2015 at 7:28pm: Is anyone familiar with 32/20 investment cast steel? Says the barrel is drilled and tapped for a peep sight? Why not the tang? So many goofy things about the rifle and the website. Is it really made by real people? The huge long dangerous looking hammer doesn't look like a Spanish infantry rifle hammer at all. Joe. one has to wonder if that website info was written by a Chinese or Indian tech writer that does not understand firearms or English.

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11448 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Tippmann Arms Roller Reply #18 - Dec 14^th, 2015 at 7:59pm	Print Post
	Wondering for sure. Here's an enlarged picture of the action. Is the firing pin hole extremely large or is that also an optical illusion? Pin location looks all wrong too. Joe.
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Schuetzenmiester Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 6707 Location: Cool Wet Side of WA Joined: Apr 27^th, 2008	Re: Tippmann Arms Roller Reply #19 - Dec 14^th, 2015 at 8:07pm	Print Post
	westerner wrote on Dec 14^th, 2015 at 7:59pm: Wondering for sure. Here's an enlarged picture of the action. Is the firing pin hole extremely large or is that also an optical illusion? Pin location looks all wrong too. Joe. That is the newly patented "Full Force Firing Pin" guaranteed tr fire that Chinese ammo being imported to relieve the shortages

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11448 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Tippmann Arms Roller Reply #20 - Dec 14^th, 2015 at 8:30pm	Print Post
	If they will reduce the distance from the center of the bore to the center of the locking pins (shorten the height) and shorten the spur on the hammer and offer a decent barrel and caliber, oh, and fix the firing pin, they will have something to sell. Looks like the machine work is okay. Finish is okay. Entry level for sure. Something poor, AKA(working people) can improve on. 32/20 investment cast steel? Huh? Where is that factory dealer? Joe.

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ndnchf Frequent Elocutionist Online Posts: 1019 Joined: Mar 6^th, 2014	Re: Tippmann Arms Roller Reply #21 - Dec 15^th, 2015 at 7:36am	Print Post
	Why bother, there are plenty of #1, #2, #4 and #5 rifles out there just begging to be rebuilt.


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Marlene Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 272 Joined: Oct 30^th, 2015	Re: Tippmann Arms Roller Reply #22 - Dec 15^th, 2015 at 10:12am	Print Post
	Don't have any other thoughts on the rifle, but 3220 looks like a reasonable choice... (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)


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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11448 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Tippmann Arms Roller Reply #23 - Dec 15^th, 2015 at 10:40am	Print Post
	ndnchf wrote on Dec 15^th, 2015 at 7:36am: Why bother, there are plenty of #1, #2, #4 and #5 rifles out there just begging to be rebuilt. Old actions. Pits, unknown steel, worn parts. A new action made from known steel, why not? SAE 3220. It is a steel. Good. I searched too but couldn't find it. Joe.

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craigster Oldtimer Offline Posts: 681 Location: lost coast CA Joined: Feb 20^th, 2011	Re: Tippmann Arms Roller Reply #24 - Jan 19^th, 2016 at 5:52pm	Print Post
	geronimo.tn wrote on Jan 19^th, 2016 at 2:34pm: unfortunately when they ''copied'' the original Spanish military rifle,, they reproduced the exact stock dimensions which is length of pull at 13.75"( I called and ask),, that's ok for the smaller stature men of 130 years ago but not for the average American male today. Say what ? A current M700 Remington has a LOP of 13.5", pretty average these days.


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Muley Gil Newbie Offline Posts: 9 Joined: Jan 28^th, 2016	Re: Tippmann Arms Roller Reply #25 - Feb 14^th, 2016 at 8:14pm	Print Post
	Don't believe the Spanish ever used the .45-70 cartridge. Jest saying...


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hagar the H Participating Member Offline Posts: 12 Location: Concrete, WA Joined: Sep 2^nd, 2016	Re: Tippmann Arms Roller Reply #26 - Sep 4^th, 2016 at 5:09pm	Print Post
	a newbe here ---first posting --bear w/my blunders 'til I get my feet wet. I have designed and built several modern matl RB spin offs -- am accustomed to generating and interpreting CAD Cam files of the things. There are some things about what I see on the Tippmann Arms Roller that are a bit strange. First they say in their discriptive stuff that the thing has a coil mainspring then the section view in the manual shows a flat spring - ? The same cross section in the manual shows something really wierd for a chamber --- again whaazat ?? and it appears as if the portion of the BB that actually is the breach is a seperate plate attchd to the rest of the block --- more ??? When I get the system figg'rd out I'll post some pics of my RB's meanwhile, I've spent many hours trolling about thru the wonderfull info you fellows exchange.


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Ziggy Junior Member Offline Posts: 90 Location: Cordell Joined: Sep 18^th, 2007	Re: Tippmann Arms Roller Reply #27 - Sep 5^th, 2016 at 8:53am	Print Post
	The page i looked at says "Receiver: Invest Cast 4140 Steel"


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.22Hepburn Oldtimer Offline Posts: 803 Location: Pennsylvania Joined: Feb 18^th, 2008	Re: Tippmann Arms Roller Reply #28 - Sep 5^th, 2016 at 11:38am	Print Post
	"If they will reduce the distance from the center of the bore to the center of the locking pins (shorten the height) and shorten the spur on the hammer and offer a decent barrel and caliber, oh, and fix the firing pin, they will have something to sell". Bottom line, it's a mutt.


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ballardhepburnmich ASSRA Board Member Offline Posts: 598 Location: Scotts,mi. Joined: May 20^th, 2015	Re: Tippmann Arms Roller Reply #29 - Sep 5^th, 2016 at 12:11pm	Print Post
	I have seen and handled one of these rifles and while they are not a Renington, they are not really a bad looking rifle if you do not try to compare them to a Renington. Lee


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