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Re: barrel clamp
Reply #15 - Nov 8th, 2015 at 8:59am
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There are two good ways to find the nodes on your gun. The first is to ring the barrel with a brass hammer. Go up and down the barrel lightly tapping when you hit a sweet spot you will hear the difference mark the spot and put the center of the Bobsled there. The other is very trick, if you have an octagon barrel lightly coat the top flat with talc. Now go up and down the barrel tapping with a brass hammer. The talc will arrange its self as the barrel vibrates at a point or two the talc will form little Vs that point at each other. That’s your sweet spot.

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Reply #16 - Nov 8th, 2015 at 2:09pm
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thanks all for the replys   art
  
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Reply #17 - Nov 8th, 2015 at 4:37pm
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shovel80 wrote on Nov 7th, 2015 at 9:13pm:
If you use the screw adjustment on the side of the front rest for Windage adjustment....With a long barrel and the clamp too far forward , it will make it difficut to reach the adjustment...I put my barrel clamp at 9 inches.

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In my experience, I found having the windage too far to reach conveniently for fine tuning  didn't much matter. Just move the rear of the rifle a smidgen.   Using the barrel clamp is a whole different set of operating rules than sandbag bench shooting.  That front rest with a pin to push into  has to be solid enough to hold heavy shoulder pressure on the rifle.
  

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Reply #18 - Nov 8th, 2015 at 7:29pm
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Schuetzenmiester wrote on Nov 8th, 2015 at 4:37pm:
shovel80 wrote on Nov 7th, 2015 at 9:13pm:
If you use the screw adjustment on the side of the front rest for Windage adjustment....With a long barrel and the clamp too far forward , it will make it difficut to reach the adjustment...I put my barrel clamp at 9 inches.

Terry


In my experience, I found having the windage too far to reach conveniently for fine tuning  didn't much matter. Just move the rear of the rifle a smidgen.   Using the barrel clamp is a whole different set of operating rules than sandbag bench shooting.  That front rest with a pin to push into  has to be solid enough to hold heavy shoulder pressure on the rifle.   


I shoot my bench rifles "Free Recoil"

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Reply #19 - Nov 8th, 2015 at 9:19pm
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I don't shoot singles free recoil, but I use as light a touch, cheek weld, and shoulder as I can. Do you mean that the barrel rest needs to be jammed tight to a pin? Why wouldn't it still work just floating on the pad? Curiouser, and curiouser I are.
  
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Reply #20 - Nov 9th, 2015 at 12:14am
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calledflyer wrote on Nov 8th, 2015 at 9:19pm:
I don't shoot singles free recoil, but I use as light a touch, cheek weld, and shoulder as I can. Do you mean that the barrel rest needs to be jammed tight to a pin? Why wouldn't it still work just floating on the pad? Curiouser, and curiouser I are.


That is the only way I got consistent results.  Totally opposite of shooting the same rifle on a sandbag. I bolted my front rest to a 50 pound steel plate to provide resistance to push against.

I never got to where I felt it could compete with the modern BR style  stocks with 3" wide forearms sliding in a perfectly fit bag and the butt stock profile parallel  with the forearm.
  

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Reply #21 - Nov 9th, 2015 at 12:21pm
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Well, I'll be darned. I'd seen a notch in some of the rests, but thought it only served to position things repeatedly. Like the pin on modern rests is used, sort of.
No need for me to get a gizmo for the barrel, or a ton more s--- to lug up to the bench. I'm amazed that brute force works on any gun, let alone one that's made of "loose" components. Goes to show what I know, don't it?
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Reply #22 - Nov 9th, 2015 at 2:16pm
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I was a bit surprised too when I finally figured it all out  Wink
  

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Reply #23 - Nov 9th, 2015 at 11:14pm
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An issue I encountered is the length of the shooting bench. I had to mount my sled as close as possible to the forend in order to get the setup to fit on some of the shorter benches. Joe S
  
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Reply #24 - Nov 10th, 2015 at 2:22am
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I did not run into that problem, but I used the whole bench in most cases.  Probably just TRR, Spokane and Raton.  I don't remember any more.  I don't think I ever used it at Springfield.
  

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Reply #25 - Nov 10th, 2015 at 12:03pm
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Schuetzenmiester wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 12:14am:
[quote author=35332D2A29292C2B2236322A37312D450 link=1446834909/19#19 date=1447035560]I bolted my front rest to a 50 pound steel plate to provide resistance to push against.

During your experimentation, did you try pulling the rifle into your shoulder, using a Pope or Ball & Spur lever, with the same force that you used to push the gun into the rest with that shoulder?

  

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Reply #26 - Nov 10th, 2015 at 12:32pm
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AS I recall, I held it tight to my shoulder with a firm grip on the 3 finger PG as well as pushing it solidly into the pin on the front rest.
  

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Reply #27 - Nov 10th, 2015 at 1:43pm
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If I understand you Smoke, I think you mean to hold tight without the barrel clamp rest pushed onto the pin? I tried lots of stuff over the years, but hard holding (no barrel clamp ever tried) was never a consistent way of shooting from the bench. Too hard to be even every time, and some stocks, like offhand ones, don't work very well thatta way. Now, the method of squeezing between two points, the shoulder and pin, might be consistent. Dunno, never done it. 
I do know that offhand some rifles like to be pulled back, and that is kin to the pin/shoulder mount perhaps. My thoughts on something I know very little about. Wink
  
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Reply #28 - Nov 10th, 2015 at 2:35pm
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The simplest way to put it is firm pressure on the clamp pin and very delicate, gentle on the sand bags with the same rifle.
  

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