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Nov 6th, 2015 at 1:35pm
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when installing a barrel clamp how do you determine the location on the barrel?   thanks   art
  
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Reply #1 - Nov 6th, 2015 at 6:02pm
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I would start with the barrel clamp at the null point
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Reply #2 - Nov 6th, 2015 at 6:24pm
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Hi Art. 

I would start 7.2 inches from the muzzle to the center of the clamp. 

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Reply #3 - Nov 6th, 2015 at 7:46pm
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Joe,
Just curious-- Why 7.2 inches from the mzl.?
We don't even know what barrel, caliber, etc yet
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Reply #4 - Nov 6th, 2015 at 7:56pm
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Not to steal the topic, but is there someone who sells barrel clamps?  Oops, I found a Jerry Van Wet?  Anyone have contact info?
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Reply #5 - Nov 6th, 2015 at 11:49pm
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Does that make a difference?

My answer is for traditional Schuetzen rifles with thirty to thirty two inch barrels. 7.2 inches from the muzzle is a starting point.   

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Reply #6 - Nov 6th, 2015 at 11:58pm
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If one of these were mounted (at, say 7.2 inches), and it was working---would it need to be moved for different loads. Or, said in another way, if I find the null point is it good for just any ol' load?
  
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Reply #7 - Nov 7th, 2015 at 1:42pm
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There is no exact science to clamp placement that I'm aware of and I've been shooting with a barrel clamp (rest) for some years now. Start at the null point or Joe's 7.2" back from the muzzle. It doesn't really matter. Shoot a group that you are confident is a good one, move the clamp a couple inches forward, fire another group. Then, move your clamp a couple inches to the rear of your starting point and again shoot a group that you are confident is a good one. Compare the targets for group size. If you see a significant difference in group size, for instance, if the forward group is tighter than the others, shoot a group with that positioning of the clamp and then move the clamp forward another inch and fire a group. I'll bet you see where this is headed. Keep tweaking the clamp location until you get the consistently smallest groups. You can do this in a single outing or you can continue testing for the rest of your life, your call.
I've never seen any real magic in barrel clamp placement but you will find a sweet spot by testing various clamp positions on your barrel. The main benifits of a clamp-on barrel rest is to help mitigate recoil torque and act as an aid in precise positioning of the rifle on the front rest, shot-to-shot.
I put a small mark at the sweet spot on the barrel with a black Sharpie. It is not apparent to the casual observer so I won't affect the rifle's appearance and is easy to wipe off if you need to.
Good shooting!
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Reply #8 - Nov 7th, 2015 at 2:08pm
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When I shot slug guns, most of the guy's had their's as close to the muzzle as possible. Averaging about 1 - 2" back.

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Reply #9 - Nov 7th, 2015 at 2:11pm
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I believe you will find your technique is infinitely more important the clamp position.  When you look at the oldtime clamps, they have a v notch in the front.  That notch is to push against a firm pin with a heavy shoulder.   Most of your "benchrest sandbags techniques" will be altered.
  

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Reply #10 - Nov 7th, 2015 at 2:45pm
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The foot on my sixty pound slug gun is 3 3/4 inches back of the muzzle. The rifle shoots much better from sand bags. Difficult to shoot off a modern bench with the foot due to the length. 

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Reply #11 - Nov 7th, 2015 at 4:59pm
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I'm sorta inclined to the Schuetzenmiester school of thinking. I've rested a fair number of single shots on bags (never owned a barrel rest-yet), and mostly positioned the front rest where the rifle felt just a little bit butt heavy. Not the same for every rifle, of course. It makes my handling of the piece easy, and that makes me concentrate on shots more easily. As he puts it, "technique". Still, one of these contraptions seems like it has possibilities to help in that area. Thanks y'all. Pat
  
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Reply #12 - Nov 7th, 2015 at 7:46pm
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It took many pounds of lead to develop that school of thinking  Cry
  

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Reply #13 - Nov 7th, 2015 at 9:13pm
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If you use the screw adjustment on the side of the front rest for Windage adjustment....With a long barrel and the clamp too far forward , it will make it difficut to reach the adjustment...I put my barrel clamp at 9 inches.

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Reply #14 - Nov 7th, 2015 at 11:09pm
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My 25-20WCF, 33-47, 32-40, and 28-30 all shoot well with the sled placed 1 1/8" from the muzzle (28" barrel) to the front of the sled. I use the short side of the Allen wrench that fits the screws that clamp the sled together to place the sled on the barrel. I know, real scientific, eh?

Learning how to handle/hold your rifle consistently from shot to shot is far more important than where the sled is placed. Every rifle likes to be held differently. 

At least that's my story, and I'm sticking to it.

Like shovel80/Terry says, reaching your windage adjustment screw can be a challenge depending on the front rest you use.

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