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chawk Full Member Offline Posts: 208 Location: Virginia Joined: Jan 29^th, 2014	38-55 Low Wall! Nov 5^th, 2015 at 7:53am	Print Post
	I've seen many actions of moderate strength (re)chambered in questionable, higher power cartridges. Ballards and Low walls are often a victim of this. This one goes way beyond questionable to downright dangerous. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) I especially like the safety section. "Safety: Buyer is solely responsible for determining that a used gun is safe to shoot."
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stubbicatt Ex Member	Re: 38-55 Low Wall! Reply #1 - Nov 5^th, 2015 at 8:14am	Print Post
	I don't know much, but I wouldn't shoot that thing. Seems like a disaster waiting to happen.


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Old-Win Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1668 Location: Minnesota Joined: Nov 24^th, 2005	Re: 38-55 Low Wall! Reply #2 - Nov 5^th, 2015 at 9:12am	Print Post
	Wonder what the extra screw is for?


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kensmachine Oldtimer Offline Posts: 565 Joined: Nov 21^st, 2012	Re: 38-55 Low Wall! Reply #3 - Nov 5^th, 2015 at 9:35am	Print Post
	also look like it's got a high wall lower tang in it something not right there. nice wood check fit SH1T. the Winchester roll stamp on the barrel look new it's heavy on the ends light in the middle.


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SSShooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2917 Location: Southern NJ Joined: Aug 1^st, 2010	Re: 38-55 Low Wall! Reply #4 - Nov 5^th, 2015 at 9:41am	Print Post
	Yep. While the OP may be smart enough to not overload a 38-55 LW, what about the next owner? We have someone who occasionally shots one of our matches with a 38-55 LW and I always make sure I'm on a different relay so I can have plenty of distance and obstructions between me and the possibly 'flying metal'. The sad part is his 15yr old daughter is generally the one shooting the rifle.

	Glenn - 2x CPA 44 1/2 w/22LR (Shilen ratchet-rifled & Bartlein 5R rifled), 38-40RH & 38-55WCF (Bartlein 5R rifled) & 40-65WCF (GrnMtn 'X') barrels
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40_Rod Frequent Elocutionist Offline Extremism in the persuit of accuracy is not a vice Posts: 4285 Location: Knoxville, TN Joined: Apr 20^th, 2004	Re: 38-55 Low Wall! Reply #5 - Nov 5^th, 2015 at 9:44am	Print Post
	Just because you can doesn’t mean you should. I would consider a 38-55 on a low wall a danger to the shooter and to anyone who is unlucky enough to be shooting on either side of him. The person stupid enough to buy and shoot a 38-55 lo wall is stupid enough to load it up to max recommended loads. This is a tragedy looking for a fool. 40 Rod


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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11439 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: 38-55 Low Wall! Reply #6 - Nov 5^th, 2015 at 10:06am	Print Post
	But you guys think nothing of standing next to the guy shooting an Aydt or a trapdoor or a Stevens 44 or a Ballard. Joe.

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16052 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: 38-55 Low Wall! Reply #7 - Nov 5^th, 2015 at 10:06am	Print Post
	Nice! They can't find a sucker locally, so put it on the internet and find a bigger audience to find one! Somebody did a nice job of egging out the screw holes in the receiver with their power buffer!

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calledflyer Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3549 Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: 38-55 Low Wall! Reply #8 - Nov 5^th, 2015 at 2:28pm	Print Post
	As for the extra screw on the side- I'd venture that in a former life it sported a saddle ring. Wouldn't it be a shame if he took and original trapper model and made this thing?


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Bulseyetom Oldtimer Offline Posts: 951 Location: Santa Maria, Ca Joined: Oct 31^st, 2010	Re: 38-55 Low Wall! Reply #9 - Nov 5^th, 2015 at 7:11pm	Print Post
	I looked and there were 39 bids placed by 9 different bidders. In looking down the site I noticed a Browning BPCR with a huge caveat Black Powder only. Were the Badger Barrels too weak for smokeless? Seems like in modern times all centerfire barrels would be made out of high strength steel just because of liability. Tom


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Bulseyetom Oldtimer Offline Posts: 951 Location: Santa Maria, Ca Joined: Oct 31^st, 2010	Re: 38-55 Low Wall! Reply #10 - Nov 5^th, 2015 at 7:12pm	Print Post
	I looked and there were 39 bids placed by 9 different bidders. In looking down the site I noticed a Browning BPCR with a huge caveat Black Powder only. Were the Badger Barrels too weak for smokeless? Seems like in modern times all centerfire barrels would be made out of high strength steel just because of liability. Tom


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stubbicatt Ex Member	Re: 38-55 Low Wall! Reply #11 - Nov 6^th, 2015 at 6:30am	Print Post
	Bulseyetom wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 7:12pm: I looked and there were 39 bids placed by 9 different bidders. In looking down the site I noticed a Browning BPCR with a huge caveat Black Powder only. Were the Badger Barrels too weak for smokeless? Seems like in modern times all centerfire barrels would be made out of high strength steel just because of liability. Tom I have read elsewhere that the black powder only banner isn't so much an indictment of the strength of the barrel or action, but a recognition that there aren't any smokeless load data available to folks when the rifle was made. I don't know if this is true, but it seems plausible.


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40_Rod Frequent Elocutionist Offline Extremism in the persuit of accuracy is not a vice Posts: 4285 Location: Knoxville, TN Joined: Apr 20^th, 2004	Re: 38-55 Low Wall! Reply #12 - Nov 6^th, 2015 at 8:51am	Print Post
	I believe that those Badger black powder barrels were made from screw machine steel. There has been much back and forth about the appropriateness of screw machine steel for barrels in general and smokeless loads especially. 40 Rod


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Chuck V Participating Member Offline Posts: 31 Joined: Feb 11^th, 2011	Re: 38-55 Low Wall! Reply #13 - Nov 28^th, 2015 at 1:35pm	Print Post
	previous poster was correct- you will note the "black powder only" caution was on rifles originally chambered for cartridges that did not have sammi standards for chambers, pressures, etc nothing at all wrong with the action or rifle, just stick with the original chambering and enjoy! Chuck V


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BP Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 8039 Location: Westside Joined: Aug 27^th, 2006	Re: 38-55 Low Wall! Reply #14 - Nov 28^th, 2015 at 4:27pm	Print Post
	kensmachine wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 9:35am: also look like it's got a high wall lower tang in it something not right there. nice wood check fit SH1T. the Winchester roll stamp on the barrel look new it's heavy on the ends light in the middle. Looks like it might be rolled on crooked too. And since the 38-55 cartridge wasn't a cartridge that was developed by Winchester, I don't believe the factory caliber stamp would have included the "W.C.F." So, just to throw the question out there, when you decide to purchase a firearm that has enough indicators that makes you believe it has most likely been screwed with (hell, most of the posts found in this forums gunsmithing section should tell us that most old guns have likely been screwed with at one time or another, and there is a good chance many via the parkenfarker method), what obligations regarding safety does you, the buyer/shooter accept? Just blame the seller, or...?

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