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Kody Participating Member Offline Posts: 30 Location: Lacey Joined: Sep 10^th, 2012	32-40 Scheutzen Oct 30^th, 2015 at 9:01am	Print Post
	I thought this would be useful to some people and am curious if anyone has loaded to these specs. I want to note the low pressure of the 2015BR powder as there has been some mixed opinions about loading the 32-40 in an original low wall action. This is something I plan to build in the near future having recently purchasing a low wall action.


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bnice Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1987 Location: Iowa Joined: Nov 30^th, 2006	Re: 32-40 Scheutzen Reply #1 - Oct 30^th, 2015 at 9:26am	Print Post
	Thank you, I have some 2015 I want to try in my 25 cal rifles. I would like to hear if anyone has tried this and what loads they used and there success.


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Pentz Senior Forum Member Offline Funf und Zwanzig mit den Hut Posts: 435 Location: Vancouver, WA Joined: Sep 4^th, 2014	Re: 32-40 Scheutzen Reply #2 - Oct 30^th, 2015 at 10:00am	Print Post
	Interesting that they do not show any current "bulk" powder loads. Maybe there are not any?

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Kody Participating Member Offline Posts: 30 Location: Lacey Joined: Sep 10^th, 2012	Re: 32-40 Scheutzen Reply #3 - Oct 30^th, 2015 at 10:15am	Print Post
	This book is old, my dad bought it in the 90's. Also the closest thing to the 2015br that I have found so far is accurates 2015


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calledflyer Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4036 Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: 32-40 Scheutzen Reply #4 - Oct 30^th, 2015 at 11:41am	Print Post
	Wonder how come the pressure goes down[b][/b]using the#1680 powder, while increasing the charge by 2 1/2 grs.? I never used any of these powders, but I think it's a good idea that your are wise enough to ask. May I ask, which of the low wall receivers are you using? For my own project I'd prefer one without the grooved top, and, better one of the large thread (Winder) ones. Your project, your choice, of course. Good shootin'.


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Myers Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 391 Joined: Mar 5^th, 2013	Re: 32-40 Scheutzen Reply #5 - Oct 30^th, 2015 at 5:20pm	Print Post
	I would recommend consulting with some experts which you will find on this board before chambering a low wall in 32/40. Most important is your safety. If you double charge a round in your proposed low wall then what?


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Myers Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 391 Joined: Mar 5^th, 2013	Re: 32-40 Scheutzen Reply #6 - Oct 30^th, 2015 at 5:32pm	Print Post
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Kody Participating Member Offline Posts: 30 Location: Lacey Joined: Sep 10^th, 2012	Re: 32-40 Scheutzen Reply #7 - Oct 30^th, 2015 at 11:24pm	Print Post
	I firmly believe that with the attention to detail and the respect to our equipment and its capabilities that is characteristic of the patrons to this sport and community is more than adequate to achieve safe loads. We put a lot of faith in manufacturers that their quality control procedures are religiously followed. I won't argue that the quality of steel in the 1800s was inferior to modern steel, but modern steel isn't perfect either and accidents can happen. I've seen interesting things as a gunsmith that still make me scratch my head.


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FITZ Oldtimer Offline REGARDS Posts: 917 Location: MASSACHUSETTS Joined: Apr 16^th, 2004	Re: 32-40 Scheutzen Reply #8 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 11:49am	Print Post
	I hate to say this as I am opposed to Large cases in the Lowalls. But it has been shown that recent blowups in Original equipment Rifles starts with Barrel failure. Once the barrel fails the receiver gives up. SOooo in theory an Original Mild steel receiver with a Modern steel barrel properly chambered could in theory handle much more than the Original Mild steel barrelled Rifles. Having said this I still believe that an original Lowall receiver even one with the large barrel shank size is trouble looking for a place to happen. We also need to remember that the Winder Actions may not have had any significant Heat Treat. Not sure I am right about this but I can tell you they Machine like butter. Just my thoughts, Regards, FITZ.

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calledflyer Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4036 Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: 32-40 Scheutzen Reply #9 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 1:05pm	Print Post
	I sure agree with Fitz, and wouldn't use any low wall for a conversion to .32-40. However, if I did the job for some reason, I'd want the Winder action simply because it has the biggest dimensions of the lot. I don't think that any of 'em are stronger steel than the rest- so the more the merrier in that regard. As for the large shank barrel- I think the blowups begin with the barrel, so the thicker walls with a large shank (per caliber) would offer a tiny bit better safety. No hotrod caliber ever to be considered, either. All said and done, the old guys used high wall for their wildcatting and varmint work. Maybe they knew something, and stayed away from the low walls wisely.


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40_Rod Frequent Elocutionist Offline Extremism in the persuit of accuracy is not a vice Posts: 4285 Location: Knoxville, TN Joined: Apr 20^th, 2004	Re: 32-40 Scheutzen Reply #10 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 4:00pm	Print Post
	OK I know that this is probably getting old but where does Winchester get the brass balls to appropriate the 32-40. It was developed by Ballard, and if we have to give a manufacturers name it should be a Ballard 32-40. I know that this is picky and I am in the minority but I am sick of Winchester stealing credit for this cartridge. 40 Rod


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ledball Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1021 Location: syracuse, ohio Joined: Nov 20^th, 2009	Re: 32-40 Scheutzen Reply #11 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 4:26pm	Print Post
	Me too, 40-rod, I think there should be some sort of a demerit for using the term 32/40 Winchester, they had absolutely nothing to do with the development of this cartridge. Led all


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Jeff_Schultz ASSRA Board Member Offline Posts: 1673 Location: Ransomville, NY Joined: Apr 25^th, 2004	Re: 32-40 Scheutzen Reply #12 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 6:16pm	Print Post
	I agree, anyone who says "32-40 Winchester" should be stoned.

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 12488 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: 32-40 Scheutzen Reply #13 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 7:59pm	Print Post
	40_Rod wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 4:00pm: OK I know that this is probably getting old but where does Winchester get the brass balls to appropriate the 32-40. It was developed by Ballard, and if we have to give a manufacturers name it should be a Ballard 32-40. I know that this is picky and I am in the minority but I am sick of Winchester stealing credit for this cartridge. 40 Rod Shame, shame on Winchester! Wait a minute............. who invented it? Marlin or Ballard? Ballard was out of the picture by the time the 32-40 whatever it is, was invented. Wasn't he? Joe.

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 12488 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: 32-40 Scheutzen Reply #14 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 8:28pm	Print Post
	My lowall chambered for 32-40 Marlin has a modern Douglas barrel. Been shot several bazzillion rounds with BP and smokeless. Has had one ring lapped out of the neck in the chamber. Going to shoot it a couple bazzillian more times before I kick the bucket. : Joe.

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