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is a 410 hard bullet too large for a 408 barrel? (Read 3556 times)

emmett22405 Full Member Offline Posts: 164 Location: Virginia Joined: Sep 21^st, 2009	is a 410 hard bullet too large for a 408 barrel? Oct 28^th, 2015 at 9:40pm	Print Post
	I shoot a lot of 200 yd offhand gong matches with several 40 cal rifles (40-65, 40-70 40-60) with a cast 260 rnfp sized 408 at about 1200 fps or so I found a nice truncated cone cast bullet sized 410 at 300 grains (for the 41 mag) and have had improved accuracy results with TC bullets in other calibers at or just .001 over groove diam. Would going .002 over groove with this (harder) bullet cause problems/concerns? thanks


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colo native Oldtimer Offline Posts: 760 Location: Barren Ridge, Va Joined: Dec 27^th, 2007	Re: is a 410 hard bullet too large for a 408 barrel? Reply #1 - Oct 28^th, 2015 at 9:45pm	Print Post
	No, I try to get .002 over size for all my cast loads, 32Miller, 32-40, 38-55, 40-65, 45-70--- some may disagree


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oneatatime Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4533 Location: Rocky Mountains Joined: Oct 30^th, 2011	Re: is a 410 hard bullet too large for a 408 barrel? Reply #2 - Oct 29^th, 2015 at 12:45am	Print Post
	Works for me.


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Smoke Oldtimer Offline Posts: 877 Location: San Diego Joined: Feb 24^th, 2013	Re: is a 410 hard bullet too large for a 408 barrel? Reply #3 - Oct 29^th, 2015 at 1:48am	Print Post
	Would this require a nice, long, tapered leade so that the bullet doesn't develop "tails" if the rifling pushes the lead back over the base of the bullet?

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bruce moulds Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 290 Location: the antipodes Joined: Mar 14^th, 2015	Re: is a 410 hard bullet too large for a 408 barrel? Reply #4 - Oct 29^th, 2015 at 2:36am	Print Post
	Emmett, if the bullet can slide into a fired case, it is optimum diameter for a bpcr. ideally the chamber is not so big that a case will not accept a bullet more than 0.002" over groove diameter. smoke. a 7 degree transition/leade angle combined will turn a flat base into a slight cupped base with a bullet 0.002 over groove. this is the disadvantage of the long leades. still better than shaving lead as happens with 45 degree transitions. keep safe, bruce.

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40_Rod Frequent Elocutionist Offline Extremism in the persuit of accuracy is not a vice Posts: 4285 Location: Knoxville, TN Joined: Apr 20^th, 2004	Re: is a 410 hard bullet too large for a 408 barrel? Reply #5 - Oct 29^th, 2015 at 9:12am	Print Post
	It depends on what hard is. Do you mean hard as in 20 ; 1 Lead / tin or are you using linotype or some other alloy containing antimony? If lead / tin it should be fine. If linotype the answer is no the alloy is too crumbly to give good accuracy with a plain based bullet. 40 Rod


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bruce moulds Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 290 Location: the antipodes Joined: Mar 14^th, 2015	Re: is a 410 hard bullet too large for a 408 barrel? Reply #6 - Oct 29^th, 2015 at 10:00pm	Print Post
	40 rod, lyman no 2 and taracorp magnum go down the forcing cones of a lot of revolvers o.k. straight linotype is extremely hard and high in antimony which makes it brittle. keep safe, bruce.

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40_Rod Frequent Elocutionist Offline Extremism in the persuit of accuracy is not a vice Posts: 4285 Location: Knoxville, TN Joined: Apr 20^th, 2004	Re: is a 410 hard bullet too large for a 408 barrel? Reply #7 - Oct 30^th, 2015 at 8:42am	Print Post
	If you want to use a pistol and shoot at something at 25 yards go ahead use linotype or #2. If you want to hit something at 200 yards use lead / tin. Good bullets aren’t cheap and cheap bullets aren’t good. 40 Rod


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