The .44-77 is I believe 2.25" long, but the .44-90 is 2.63" long. It may well be that the extra length is simply neck length, and the rest the dimensions match.

Both the body and the neck are longer on the 44-90 than the 44-77. It could have been re chambered at some point lon ago when it was a working gun and not an artifact.

40 Rod

I don't know whose rifle that was, but it is one of the best looking rifles I've ever seen!

John

No problem Harry, I saw the auction notice and thought it may have some relevance to the conversation.  I do think  RIA   embellishes  a bit to increase sales.

I think the team picture you reference is enlarged to poster size at the Cody Museum.  That is a wonderful rifle!

That IS a beautiful Rolling block for sure!

I certainly cannot comment on its provenance but wonder if anyone researching the famous overseas matches have ever tried to access the records of the ships which carried the contestants and their equipment?
Not sure if rifle descriptions and numbers were ever logged but it seems possible if only for preventing theft on the voyage.

Out of curiosity, does the base of the rear sight fit exactly into the recess for the back position?  My guess is that it will as your staff is very tall.
Many rifles came with different sight sets for differing positions or ranges and some came with one rear sight which was simply moved from one mount to another.

I thought this to be interesting in the different ways you could order a Creedmoor roller at least accordingly to Philip Sharpe's book "The Rifle in America".
In the section parted, "Remington Creedmoor Rifle, 
Introduced 1873 - Discontinued 1890"
"This rifle was brought out in .44-90,.44-100 and .44-105 and used bottleneck cartridges with an originally 2 1/4 inch shell, later increased to 2 7/16 inch.  It was essentially a target rifle and was brought out in several grades.
   The first record of this rifle being actually used in competition was in the Turf, Field, and Farm Match , August 2, 1873.  This model had a 34 inch barrel and weighed 10 pounds.
   Various models of this rifle were constructed known as A, B, C, D, and E.  The A type had a pistol grip stock and was equipped with Vernier peep rear sights and wind-gauge type front.  The B type and a plain stock and flat butt plate together with Vernier rear and wind-gauge front sights.  The C type had a military stock with Vernier peep rear and wind-gauge front sights, and the D type was the same as the A except that it had a rubber butt plate, forearm tip and checked forearm.  In addition the few extra accessories were available in sights including a spirit level and extra peep discs.  The E type was the same as the D except that it had a  specially selected walnut stock, highly polished and extra finished action throughout as well."
The photo of the Roller in this thread, certainly falls in one of these types it seems.

Further to Old-Win's post with the close up photos of a Remington of Fulton's, here is the full length picture. it was described as ".44-77, 34" full octagon barrel with an excellent bore."

With regards to the rifle that generated all this debate, and the recess in the stock possibly for a heel sight, do we know when heel sights started to be used on these rifles? All the pictures I have been looking at recently show tang mounted sights even when the rifles are being fired from the back position.

David