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rustyrelx Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 474 Location: Wallace Idaho Joined: Oct 9^th, 2007	Remington Rolling Block Oct 23^rd, 2015 at 1:50pm	Print Post
	Ok this is for all you rolling block fans. I have a Remington with tang screw holes at 2 1/8. It numbers at 52xx. I think the standard that I can tell is 1 15/16. Is that maybe for later Rolling Blocks? Looking at Marcot's book it looks like the earlier Rolling Blocks had a longer base for the tang sight. Obviously difficult to tell from a book. I'm starting to think Remington made them with 2 different tang sight bases. Any help here would be greatly appreciated. Strictly for a commercial unmolested rifle. So now I need a sight base for the 2 1/8. Thank You Don rustyrelx@yahoo.com
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BP Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 8039 Location: Westside Joined: Aug 27^th, 2006	Re: Remington Rolling Block Reply #1 - Oct 23^rd, 2015 at 4:20pm	Print Post
	Looking at Marcot's book, on page 45 you'll see pictures of a Maynard tang sight that is installed on a Rem #1. I doubt anyone here will claim that Remington once considered the Maynard sight screw spacing to be a Remington factory standard screw spacing for tang sight installations. There are a number of different tang sights shown installed on various #1 rifles in Marcot's book, plus on page 41 you can see what looks like a shortened tang sight base that was adapted for the installation of that scope made by an unknown manufacturer. The tang sights shown on page 109, page 163 (though this one may have used the Remington spacing), and on page 229 will raise an eyebrow or two. As you dig further into the book, you'll see holes all over the place even on the fancy target #1s, indicating that a lot of folks back then used what they had in hand or that was immediately available, or that fit their particular ideas of what would work best.

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John Boy Ex Member	Re: Remington Rolling Block Reply #2 - Oct 23^rd, 2015 at 7:44pm	Print Post
	Firearms manufacturers of the 1800's installed parts from many different vendors. Examples: * Ballard used Beach's combo sight as an option * Ballard used Winchester 1873 butt plate screws * Wurfflein used Ballard tang sights And probably the list goes on!


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rustyrelx Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 474 Location: Wallace Idaho Joined: Oct 9^th, 2007	Re: Remington Rolling Block Reply #3 - Oct 24^th, 2015 at 12:48pm	Print Post
	Look we all know any rifle can be "modified"at any time. My query is only about observations. Does the early Remington use a 2 1/8 hole spacing for their early rifles? If you look in Marcots book it appears that on the early target rifles the base of the tang sight is longer. Look at the front on the sight base and you will notice that it seems farther forward. The juncture at the front of the buttstock seems to be real close on some of the target bases and farther back on others. Obviously all being made and installed by Remington. Can anybody with an early target rifle verify my findings? Hole spacing of 2 1/8 center to center. Don
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rustyrelx Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 474 Location: Wallace Idaho Joined: Oct 9^th, 2007	Re: Remington Rolling Block Reply #4 - Oct 30^th, 2015 at 2:52pm	Print Post
	2 1/8?


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16280 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Remington Rolling Block Reply #5 - Oct 30^th, 2015 at 7:43pm	Print Post
	Not to my knowledge Don? It's less than 2" at 1.9375" spacing. Uses regular 10-32 NF thread screws. Mine are either this spacing, or not D&T for a tang sight. PS-Looked it up in Stroebel's Old Gun Sights book, and he has the same 1.9375" spacing listed also.

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rustyrelx Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 474 Location: Wallace Idaho Joined: Oct 9^th, 2007	Re: Remington Rolling Block Reply #6 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 12:30pm	Print Post
	Marlinguy: Yes I have seen that number many times on each and every later rolling block. If you look closely at Marcots book you may see a difference. Maybe???? It appears the front screw is located farther foreward on some. Thats why I am asking about the early rolling blocks. Thanks marlinguy


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BP Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 8039 Location: Westside Joined: Aug 27^th, 2006	Re: Remington Rolling Block Reply #7 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 4:47pm	Print Post
	rustyrelx, I love suspense, but how about letting us all know which particular pages, photos, and individual rifles in the Marcot book you are actually referring to?

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16280 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Remington Rolling Block Reply #8 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 5:40pm	Print Post
	rustyrelx wrote on Oct 31^st, 2015 at 12:30pm: Marlinguy: Yes I have seen that number many times on each and every later rolling block. If you look closely at Marcots book you may see a difference. Maybe???? It appears the front screw is located farther foreward on some. Thats why I am asking about the early rolling blocks. Thanks marlinguy Unsure what you're referring to as "early"? When I look in Marcot's book, all the early Rolling Blocks he pictures seem to have built in tang sights (if they have a tang sight) with no screws mounting them. On page 44 I see one that appears to have an odd spacing, which looks more like Stevens 1.5", and on 45 the Maynard tang sight. P. 54 appears to be std. 1.93" spacing. Pages 123-127 look to be the 1.93" also? I really only see the two exceptions throughout Marcot's book, besides the early Rollers with built in bases.

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MT Chambers Full Member Offline Posts: 141 Location: Foam Lake, Saskatchewan Joined: Oct 3^rd, 2011	Re: Remington Rolling Block Reply #9 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 6:00pm	Print Post
	My orig. Rem. 1 1/2 RB. is def. 2 1/8" and base that fit it was supplied by Baco.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16280 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Remington Rolling Block Reply #10 - Oct 31^st, 2015 at 10:11pm	Print Post
	My 1 1/2 isn't D&T, but my #2 and one of my #1 Sporters are. Both are the 1.9375".

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rustyrelx Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 474 Location: Wallace Idaho Joined: Oct 9^th, 2007	Re: Remington Rolling Block Reply #11 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 11:53am	Print Post
	Aha!!!!!! another one,the story thickens, Thank you MT Chambers. What is the serial # range mine is 52XX. I will get out the Marcot book and look again at the pages. And post them. Don


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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11518 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Remington Rolling Block Reply #12 - Nov 1^st, 2015 at 4:39pm	Print Post
	Have two sporting #1s. Neither is drilled and tapped for a tang sight. Sorry. Joe

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powderman Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 335 Location: British Columbia Joined: Feb 26^th, 2005	Re: Remington Rolling Block Reply #13 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 1:08pm	Print Post
	I have a #1 sporting rifle with a factory tang sight. 1 15/16" hole spacing.


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rustyrelx Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 474 Location: Wallace Idaho Joined: Oct 9^th, 2007	Re: Remington Rolling Block Reply #14 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 1:42pm	Print Post
	1 15/16" seems to be the most common... Don


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