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Oct 20th, 2015 at 9:21pm
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Tried some match swaged bullets by Bennett today in my CPA 32-40 bench rifle . One caveat before I start. My home range here in Western PA sits on a hill and  always has lots of wind . Today the wind was coming out of the West at 15-20 mph, sunny 70 degrees . The bullets come packed 50 to a box packed in a foam holder . .32 caliber rifle / .321" diameter tapered bullet competition grade ( +/- .1 gr ) is typed on the box side . Weights varied from 200.1- 200.3. However the bullets have been lubed . Bullets are lubed with A-Lox for smokeless powder . The bullet blanks are knurled and then the lube is applied . The entire bearing surface is therefore lubed . Used Winchester 32-40 cases with IMR 4227 @ 14.2 grs. 
Used a German 25 ring Schuetzen target at 200 yards . I only shot about 35 rounds today and the target you see is the best I could do . Again winds were gusting at 15-20 mph to be fare . The bullets all appeared to be flawless with razor sharp base edges . Breech seated very well . I only experimented with two different seating depths as I currently only use plugged cases . I think with some powder changes and seating depth changes I could do much better . Although I will not be ordering these bullets again because the cost is prohibitive for me 20.00$ for the bullets and 6.00$ for shipping , 50 bullets are supplied . Those with deeper pockets have at it . Swaged bullets have peaked my interest. One could purchase dies and a press and swaged their own, however the lead wire needed and costs again are prohibitive . I think if you could find a mold that would allow you to cast your own lead wire that would greatly reduce costs. You would not need spools of wire just cast 2-3" pieces in a mold ? Any comments on that ?  Also Mr. Bennett works on the honor system, he sends you his bullets and you send him a check . Thanks
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Reply #1 - Oct 21st, 2015 at 12:24am
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Im terminally politically incorrect but to see a paper patch bullet rolled to put dimples around it and then expect some degree of accuracy simply evades my sense of reason.
Get a good mould that fits your chamber/barrel and move forward.
You denigrate your efforts when you start with bullets of that type. Look at the match results and the winners thereof.....they shoot bullet they cast themselves, not rolled lubed bullets. Angry Angry Angry
  
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Reply #2 - Oct 21st, 2015 at 1:20am
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I'm not a fan of these bullets BUT, you have to keep in mind that, as I recall, they hold the current 100 yard, small group record.

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Reply #3 - Oct 21st, 2015 at 1:46am
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Frank, who records the record? CBA? ASSRA? ISSA? NRA? 



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Reply #4 - Oct 21st, 2015 at 1:59am
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Joe,
I believe it's Andy Zahornacky, ASSRA record, set in 2011, .141

Anyone is welcome to correct me. Andy's on the forum. I hope I'm right  Embarrassed

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Reply #5 - Oct 21st, 2015 at 9:46am
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Paul Shutleworth told me about these bullets . I think maybe his home range is only 100 yards ? I'am not really sure . I just thought I would try them . I will continue to use my Hoch mold . Frank you say 100 yard record, please excuse me if I appear rude , I'am not impressed. There is no comparison to shooting at 200 yards verses 100 yard targets, it is a different game . I might even consider using a slingshot at 100 yrds ! When I first brought my CPA home in May of 2015 and was only beginning to be able to cast just decent bullets I was only shooting at 100 yard targets and could almost place most shots inside a quarter. When I stepped back to 200 yards, well again different game, a real challenge . Thanks
  
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Reply #6 - Oct 21st, 2015 at 9:53am
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100 yard small group is still tough shooting, it is all relative. Tell the 50 meter 22 shooters thats to easy see what they tell you.  Smiley
  
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Reply #7 - Oct 21st, 2015 at 11:22am
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100 yards groups will generally but, not always hold up at 200 yards. I'm impressed with a .141 group. I rarely shoot at 100 but, my smallest group, shot in competition has been .331, more than twice as large.

The record for five, 5 shots groups @ 100 is .388, none of the 5 close to .141

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Reply #8 - Oct 21st, 2015 at 12:30pm
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I'm thoroughly impressed with a .141 group in even the finest kind of rifle shooting jacketed. To do it with a lead slug is doubly impressive. I'm not even flirting with groups of quarter size too often- and under three quarters keeps me smiling. Carry on.
  
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Reply #9 - Oct 21st, 2015 at 1:29pm
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frnkeore wrote on Oct 21st, 2015 at 11:22am:
100 yards groups will generally but, not always hold up at 200 yards. I'm impressed with a .141 group. I rarely shoot at 100 but, my smallest group, shot in competition has been .331, more than twice as large.

The record for five, 5 shots groups @ 100 is .388, none of the 5 close to .141

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I assume the the .141 was @ 100.  How many shots? 
  

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Reply #10 - Oct 21st, 2015 at 1:36pm
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Bob,
5 shots @ 100yd

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Reply #11 - Oct 21st, 2015 at 2:30pm
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Thanks Frank,  that is what I thought it probably was.  I never shot any of my schuetzen rifles at 100 until I started CBA matches this last summer.   

One of the USBR guys at TRR told me they are cementing the adjustments in their target scopes now because there is too much slop enlarging their groups.  That is too deep for me!  Shocked
  

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Reply #12 - Oct 21st, 2015 at 8:37pm
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Brudford:    Bennett bullets will shoot much better than the target you show, at any range.  Have you sluged your Bore and determined that the bullets fit correctly? 

The reason Paul Schuttleworth suggested these bullets is that he shoots them at both ranges.  Much has been made of Paul having "onty" a 100 yard home range. In fact Paul and Gail shoot at various NY ranges, in competition, and do very well.

Making a good target with bullets one has personally cast is very satisfying.  Not everyone has the desire, time, or equipment to do so. Bennetts provide a known high quality standard for comparison, so long as dia. is correct.  Bennetts I have are labled .322 and mike same.

Frank, you are correct.  thanks
  
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Reply #13 - Oct 21st, 2015 at 8:53pm
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I've shot these Bennett bullets and they shoot great, but the problem is, I shoot so much that I would have to come-out of retirement to buy them, maybe a job in a gas station.  Ledball
  
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