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j_c_johnson Full Member Offline C C Johnson's grandson Posts: 122 Location: northeast Indiana Joined: Sep 16^th, 2004	Charles C Johnson, Riflesmith Sep 16^th, 2015 at 6:46am	Print Post
	CCJ Garage shop, late 1960's


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j_c_johnson Full Member Offline C C Johnson's grandson Posts: 122 Location: northeast Indiana Joined: Sep 16^th, 2004	Re: Charles C Johnson, Riflesmith Reply #1 - Sep 16^th, 2015 at 6:50am	Print Post
	CCJ Lawrenceville Shop January 1948 CCJ facing camera at the lathe.
	« Last Edit: Sep 18^th, 2015 at 8:39am by j_c_johnson »

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j_c_johnson Full Member Offline C C Johnson's grandson Posts: 122 Location: northeast Indiana Joined: Sep 16^th, 2004	Re: Charles C Johnson, Riflesmith Reply #2 - Sep 16^th, 2015 at 6:52am	Print Post
	CCJ Lawrenceville shop & employees January 1948 CCJ is on the right.
	« Last Edit: Sep 18^th, 2015 at 8:38am by j_c_johnson »

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bnice Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1844 Location: Iowa Joined: Nov 30^th, 2006	Re: Charles C Johnson, Riflesmith Reply #3 - Sep 16^th, 2015 at 8:40am	Print Post
	Thanks for sharing


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shovel80 Oldtimer Offline Posts: 896 Location: Sonora,CA Joined: Jun 6^th, 2011	Re: Charles C Johnson, Riflesmith Reply #4 - Sep 16^th, 2015 at 8:47am	Print Post
	Great Photos! Terry

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 15994 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Charles C Johnson, Riflesmith Reply #5 - Sep 16^th, 2015 at 9:19am	Print Post
	Thanks for the great pictures JC! Pretty neat!

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Crown-C Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 487 Location: St. Marys Kansas Joined: Apr 6^th, 2009	Re: Charles C Johnson, Riflesmith Reply #6 - Sep 16^th, 2015 at 10:34am	Print Post
	Those are photos of your grandfather to cherish! Thanks for sharing them with us. Richard

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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7245 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: Charles C Johnson, Riflesmith Reply #7 - Sep 16^th, 2015 at 11:31am	Print Post
	Another big thank you! Frank

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patriot Participating Member Offline Posts: 34 Joined: Mar 29^th, 2015	Re: Charles C Johnson, Riflesmith Reply #8 - Sep 17^th, 2015 at 1:46am	Print Post
	Wow; thanks. A friend and I both have Ballard's with his barrels. Mine, with a new chamber, will shoot well inside an inch at 100. Mark


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oneatatime Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3846 Location: Rocky Mountains Joined: Oct 30^th, 2011	Re: Charles C Johnson, Riflesmith Reply #9 - Sep 17^th, 2015 at 10:39am	Print Post
	Mark, check the recent Johnson thread in General Discussion.


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wcf3840 Senior Forum Member Offline ASSRA Life #299 Posts: 354 Location: Palatine Joined: May 28^th, 2007	Re: Charles C Johnson, Riflesmith Reply #10 - Sep 17^th, 2015 at 12:00pm	Print Post
	I have a Rigby Ballard relined to .22lr by CC. The barrel is marked CC Johnson, Thackery, O. It shoots really well and the fit of the extractor is really tight. Have tried unsuccessfully to post some pictures. But am glad to see the pictures of CC himself.


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wcf3840 Senior Forum Member Offline ASSRA Life #299 Posts: 354 Location: Palatine Joined: May 28^th, 2007	Re: Charles C Johnson, Riflesmith Reply #11 - Sep 17^th, 2015 at 2:11pm	Print Post
	Worked on resizing my pics. Hope this works.


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wcf3840 Senior Forum Member Offline ASSRA Life #299 Posts: 354 Location: Palatine Joined: May 28^th, 2007	Re: Charles C Johnson, Riflesmith Reply #12 - Sep 17^th, 2015 at 2:13pm	Print Post
	Here's another one.


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patriot Participating Member Offline Posts: 34 Joined: Mar 29^th, 2015	Re: Charles C Johnson, Riflesmith Reply #13 - Sep 17^th, 2015 at 6:51pm	Print Post
	oneatatime wrote on Sep 17^th, 2015 at 10:39am: Mark, check the recent Johnson thread in General Discussion. Thanks


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j_c_johnson Full Member Offline C C Johnson's grandson Posts: 122 Location: northeast Indiana Joined: Sep 16^th, 2004	Re: Charles C Johnson, Riflesmith Reply #14 - Sep 18^th, 2015 at 8:14am	Print Post
	Nice Rigby! CCJ soft soldered the liners in. He used a gasoline blowtorch to heat the barrels and thus the original finish was left intact.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 15994 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Charles C Johnson, Riflesmith Reply #15 - Sep 18^th, 2015 at 10:47am	Print Post
	wcf3840 wrote on Sep 17^th, 2015 at 2:13pm: Here's another one. Could you post a picture of the muzzle end of your CC Johson Rigby? Very interesting the way the chamber end appears to be bored larger than a normal liner size. Almost looks like it has a barrel inside the barrel?

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wcf3840 Senior Forum Member Offline ASSRA Life #299 Posts: 354 Location: Palatine Joined: May 28^th, 2007	Re: Charles C Johnson, Riflesmith Reply #16 - Sep 18^th, 2015 at 3:45pm	Print Post
	I can as soon as I get back to my computer on Monday.


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j_c_johnson Full Member Offline C C Johnson's grandson Posts: 122 Location: northeast Indiana Joined: Sep 16^th, 2004	Re: Charles C Johnson, Riflesmith Reply #17 - Sep 19^th, 2015 at 8:37am	Print Post
	Liners of that era were typically 3/8" OD. The Rigby breech pic when enlarged looks typical of that OD.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 15994 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Charles C Johnson, Riflesmith Reply #18 - Sep 19^th, 2015 at 3:30pm	Print Post
	j_c_johnson wrote on Sep 19^th, 2015 at 8:37am: Liners of that era were typically 3/8" OD. The Rigby breech pic when enlarged looks typical of that OD. The liner does appear to be about 3/8" JC, but the barrel appears to have a step in it that's slightly smaller than the OD of the threads? Maybe it was just made that way, but looks different than my Ballards have.

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j_c_johnson Full Member Offline C C Johnson's grandson Posts: 122 Location: northeast Indiana Joined: Sep 16^th, 2004	Re: Charles C Johnson, Riflesmith Reply #19 - Sep 19^th, 2015 at 3:35pm	Print Post
	The barrel threads would protrude from the breech on some Ballards and CCJ often turned a small step to provide a smooth transition. Two of his Ballards I have possess this.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 15994 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Charles C Johnson, Riflesmith Reply #20 - Sep 19^th, 2015 at 8:29pm	Print Post
	j_c_johnson wrote on Sep 19^th, 2015 at 3:35pm: The barrel threads would protrude from the breech on some Ballards and CCJ often turned a small step to provide a smooth transition. Two of his Ballards I have possess this. Thanks! That's probably what I'm seeing there!

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FITZ Oldtimer Offline REGARDS Posts: 917 Location: MASSACHUSETTS Joined: Apr 16^th, 2004	Re: Charles C Johnson, Riflesmith Reply #21 - Sep 19^th, 2015 at 9:21pm	Print Post
	I came into possession of a Sharps Borchardt relined to 22-3000 By CC JOHNSON ABOUT 1970. On close examination at the Muzzle it looked like the liner was in the original Bore. You could see the ends of Rifling Grooves. So I decided to see what was there. Heard he soldered liners in. So I took the Barrel off and heated it on my Gas kitchen stove. When the Solder started to weep took it down to my shop and drove it out. Smooth bore inside? I looked again and still could see rifling at the Muzzle. So reheated it and drove that liner out. cleaned the Bore, bright shiny near perfect Rifling Barrel marked .45 X 2.10, it was a 45-70. So restored it as it was a heavy 30" original barrel had to sleeve the chamber. It turned out to be on of my best shooting rifles. So it is possible to find two liners in a CC JOHNSON relined rifle. HTH Regards, FITZ.

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FITZ Oldtimer Offline REGARDS Posts: 917 Location: MASSACHUSETTS Joined: Apr 16^th, 2004	Re: Charles C Johnson, Riflesmith Reply #22 - Sep 19^th, 2015 at 9:27pm	Print Post
	J.C. Great pictures. When I got into the Machine business there were still a few here and there Shops using overhead belt drive systems to run their equipment. Brought back some fond memories of that time for me. Looked like CC was happy in his business. Regards, FITZ.

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tommyauger Full Member Offline Posts: 159 Location: Altoona Joined: Oct 15^th, 2008	Re: Charles C Johnson, Riflesmith Reply #23 - Sep 20^th, 2015 at 9:20am	Print Post
	This is my CC Johnson 22 long rifle low wall I used this summer at the Eau Claire match. Tommy Auger

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wcf3840 Senior Forum Member Offline ASSRA Life #299 Posts: 354 Location: Palatine Joined: May 28^th, 2007	Re: Charles C Johnson, Riflesmith Reply #24 - Sep 21^st, 2015 at 4:42pm	Print Post
	Back at the computer and will add a few more pictures of my Rigby.


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wcf3840 Senior Forum Member Offline ASSRA Life #299 Posts: 354 Location: Palatine Joined: May 28^th, 2007	Re: Charles C Johnson, Riflesmith Reply #25 - Sep 21^st, 2015 at 4:43pm	Print Post
	One more.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 15994 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Charles C Johnson, Riflesmith Reply #26 - Sep 24^th, 2015 at 10:13am	Print Post
	Thanks for the pics! Love that Rigby in .22RF!

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oodmoff Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 276 Location: colorado springs Joined: Jan 12^th, 2009	Re: Charles C Johnson, Riflesmith Reply #27 - Sep 24^th, 2015 at 1:40pm	Print Post
	thanks for all the photos!


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WinHWFan54 Participating Member Offline Posts: 11 Location: Iowa, USA Joined: Sep 24^th, 2015	Re: Charles C Johnson, Riflesmith Reply #28 - Sep 26^th, 2015 at 1:05pm	Print Post
	Excellent pics of his shop, might be where my C.C. Johnson came from. A couple months ago I picked a Winchester 1885 HW with DSTs that he completely rebuilt. He took the 22 LR full octagon barrel, filled in the factory dovetail slots, put in a new liner and chambered it for 22 K-Hornet. He rotated the barrel to the left so the factory markings as well as his markings were on the left side barrel flat and then D&T it for scope blocks. It came with a nice Lyman Targetspot scope on it. He restocked with a dark walnut PG stock with a high comb. The wood work was pretty good but his metal work was outstanding, you can barely see where he filled in the barrel dovetails, as well as the liner. The gun shoots real good for a K-Hornet, but I think he used a 1-16 twist as it likes the 30-36 grain bullets. The barrel markings underneath indicate it was made in 1956


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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7245 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: Charles C Johnson, Riflesmith Reply #29 - Sep 28^th, 2015 at 12:23pm	Print Post
	WinHWFan54 wrote on Sep 26^th, 2015 at 1:05pm: Excellent pics of his shop, might be where my C.C. Johnson came from. A couple months ago I picked a Winchester 1885 HW with DSTs that he completely rebuilt. He took the 22 LR full octagon barrel, filled in the factory dovetail slots, put in a new liner and chambered it for 22 K-Hornet. He rotated the barrel to the left so the factory markings as well as his markings were on the left side barrel flat and then D&T it for scope blocks. It came with a nice Lyman Targetspot scope on it. He restocked with a dark walnut PG stock with a high comb. The wood work was pretty good but his metal work was outstanding, you can barely see where he filled in the barrel dovetails, as well as the liner. The gun shoots real good for a K-Hornet, but I think he used a 1-16 twist as it likes the 30-36 grain bullets. The barrel markings underneath indicate it was made in 1956 You can't tell us that and not post pictures. We are a greedy bunch here If you need help re-sizing the pictures, Email them to me and I'll send them back, re-sized. Frank

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