Page Index Toggle Pages: 1 Send TopicPrint
Hot Topic (More than 10 Replies) Comparison of Rem, Win & Starline .45-70 brass (Read 5170 times)
texasmac
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline



Posts: 2202
Location: Central Texas
Joined: Aug 16th, 2004
Comparison of Rem, Win & Starline .45-70 brass
Aug 13th, 2015 at 9:39pm
Print Post  
Hey Guys,

I just posted an article comparing Remington, Winchester and Starline .45-70 brass.  I’ve discussed this before on this forum but combined the data, comments and photo into a short article.  Those of you with Browning BPCRs in either .40-65 or .45-70 may be especially interested since I included recommendations based on matching brass and chamber dimensions.

(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)

Wayne
  

NRA Life (Benefactor & President's Council) Member, TSRA Life Member, NSSF Member, Author & Publisher of the Browning BPCR book
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Dr Tom
Ex Member


Re: Comparison of Rem, Win & Starline .45-70 brass
Reply #1 - Aug 13th, 2015 at 10:48pm
Print Post  
Thanks, Wayne!
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
UtahDave
Senior Forum Member
****
Offline



Posts: 396
Location: Heber City, Utah
Joined: Aug 14th, 2010
Re: Comparison of Rem, Win & Starline .45-70 brass
Reply #2 - Aug 14th, 2015 at 9:31am
Print Post  
Perfect timing, I get my 40-65 Sharps Borchardt in a few months.  I think I will stretch some Starline brass.   

Thanks Wayne, another great article.

Dave
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
John Boy
Ex Member


Re: Comparison of Rem, Win & Starline .45-70 brass
Reply #3 - Aug 14th, 2015 at 11:25am
Print Post  
Wayne - Thanks for the article comparison.  Informative!
I don't know exactly how many several thousands of Starline brass I have for every caliber I shoot.  This being said unless they don't make a caliber I shoot - always buy Starlines.
Might add - very few split cases after multiple reloads for brass that I've had since the late '90's
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Shanghai Jack
Full Member
***
Offline



Posts: 104
Location: texas
Joined: Apr 6th, 2014
Re: Comparison of Rem, Win & Starline .45-70 brass
Reply #4 - Sep 20th, 2015 at 7:19pm
Print Post  
Does stretching the neck or the center of the case make it more prone to case separations?
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Cat_Whisperer
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline


No 1, 9.3x74R

Posts: 3991
Location: Mountains of Virginia
Joined: Apr 17th, 2004
Re: Comparison of Rem, Win & Starline .45-70 brass
Reply #5 - Sep 20th, 2015 at 8:48pm
Print Post  
Shanghai Jack wrote on Sep 20th, 2015 at 7:19pm:
Does stretching the neck or the center of the case make it more prone to case separations?


Good question.
I've experienced separations in both places; but mostly near the base.  Easy to detect by looking for a burnished area and/or using a tool made from a bent paperclip to feel the impending separation on the inside.

  

Cat Whisperer (trk)
Chief of Smoke
Pulaski Coehorn Works and Skunk Works
Drafted May 1970, Retired Maj. U.S.Army
assra #9885
Back to top
WWW  
IP Logged
 
shovel80
Oldtimer
*****
Offline



Posts: 896
Location: Sonora,CA
Joined: Jun 6th, 2011
Re: Comparison of Rem, Win & Starline .45-70 brass
Reply #6 - Sep 20th, 2015 at 9:33pm
Print Post  
I've had a lot of Winchester .45-70 cases separate right near the center....I've switched to Remington without Any Problems!

Terry
« Last Edit: Sep 20th, 2015 at 11:11pm by shovel80 »  

ASSRA Member # 11021
Back to top
IP Logged
 
SSShooter
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline



Posts: 2944
Location: Southern NJ
Joined: Aug 1st, 2010
Re: Comparison of Rem, Win & Starline .45-70 brass
Reply #7 - Sep 20th, 2015 at 9:47pm
Print Post  
shovel80 wrote on Sep 20th, 2015 at 9:33pm:
I've had a lot of Winchester .45-70 cases separate right near the center....I've switched to Federal without Any Problems!
Terry

Also have some mid-case separations with Winchester 45-70 sized down to 40-65. But, cases are several years old and probably been reloaded 50+ times. Think I was a bit careless with them once upon a time and allowed them to corrode a bit on the inside and that was the problem. Have retired that particular set of cases to the brass recycling program. For my lower powered loads (59gr of powder, or less) I use Starline. For more powerful loads (>60gr of powder) I use Winchester as it holds about 4-5gr more powder due to its thinner case wall, etc. Consider both to be excellent brass, as is R-P. Have no experience with Federal.
  

Glenn - Stevens 044 1/2, Bartlein SS 5R barrel in 22LR
Back to top
GTalk  
IP Logged
 
shovel80
Oldtimer
*****
Offline



Posts: 896
Location: Sonora,CA
Joined: Jun 6th, 2011
Re: Comparison of Rem, Win & Starline .45-70 brass
Reply #8 - Sep 20th, 2015 at 11:10pm
Print Post  
You know, I told you wrong...don't know why I said Federal...I meant Remington!

The Winchester brass I used was about 13 years old but NOS...Was using same load I use now...65 Grains of OE 2F. This was 100 cases from the same lot that I had only shot 5 or 6 times.

The Remington I am using now is just as old as the Winchester was.

In Winchesters Defense, The previous 100 I used lasted probably close to 20 reloadings before separating.

Terry

  

ASSRA Member # 11021
Back to top
IP Logged
 
beltfed
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline



Posts: 1852
Location: Central Wi
Joined: Dec 20th, 2007
Re: Comparison of Rem, Win & Starline .45-70 brass
Reply #9 - Sep 21st, 2015 at 9:03am
Print Post  
Any info on whether you all are resizing brass between
firing . Or are you simply finger seating bullets in fire formed cases w/o any sizing, taper crimping etc ??
Tx
beltfed/arnie
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
shovel80
Oldtimer
*****
Offline



Posts: 896
Location: Sonora,CA
Joined: Jun 6th, 2011
Re: Comparison of Rem, Win & Starline .45-70 brass
Reply #10 - Sep 21st, 2015 at 9:41am
Print Post  
Never resized. Finger seated only!

Terry
  

ASSRA Member # 11021
Back to top
IP Logged
 
Page Index Toggle Pages: 1
Send TopicPrint