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30-30 Wesson on Martini Cadet
Jul 30th, 2015 at 6:38pm
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John Taylor did a professional job relining and chambering it.  I've now got 30 cases sized to fit (from .357 max).  It took 'adjusting' the CH4D FL sizer die by grinding off a bit so the bases would be sized enough.  (I guess the 1880 SAAMI standards weren't established well.)   

Starting soon with a couple of loads - 50 gr OO buck and something in the 120-130 gr. plain base.

I'm assuming that .32-20 starting loads will be a good beginning point.

  

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Re: 30-30 Wesson on Martini Cadet
Reply #1 - Aug 4th, 2015 at 9:29pm
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OK, next step.  Resizing die is trimmed such that using a vice the brass is sized down to the rim.

That however requires a pin to knock the brass out of the die.

SO, to do that on the reloading press, I'm building a bracket that will accommodate a lever to do so.

Figured a 1/4" thick plate 1" x 12" would do.  Found a 1/4" thick plate 1-3/4 x 16 and started.

1 - cold rolled steel (CRS) plate marked.
2 - sanded to reduce and even the  thickness.
  

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Reply #2 - Aug 4th, 2015 at 9:32pm
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3 - fitted into place
4 - after slot milled for cross bolt.
5 - set screws at top holding plate in solidly

Next - design the lever to operate the eject pin.
  

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Reply #3 - Aug 8th, 2015 at 12:58pm
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Done.
It works, i.e.: enough leverage to eject fully sized case from full insertion (to the rim) without undo force.

6 - linkage.  Lever arm is about 10" long, 1/4x1" CRS.  Eyebolt is 1/4-20 threaded to connector to section of 1/4-20 grade 5 bolt (end cut off and ground smooth to go inside case).

7 - detail of linkage.  1/2" long piece of 1/2" (OD) spring-roll-pin.  5/16 bolts.  Washers of 1/2" ID and 5/16 ID.  Two nuts jam together to allow clearance for lever to work.
  

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Reply #4 - Aug 8th, 2015 at 1:02pm
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8 - ejected case.

Case is pushed into the die right up to the rim (to fully size to the rim) by the piece on the ram (from Lyman recapping tool).
  

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Re: 30-30 Wesson on Martini Cadet
Reply #5 - Aug 8th, 2015 at 1:06pm
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By the bye, this is an RCBS Jr press.

Device also fits others.

Will require 1/4" notch out of the top place where it attaches with set-screws to fit the RCBS rock chucker.

Intent on this design was as shown to eject full-length sized case from die.  I will likely use this for ejecting nose-sized or bumped bullets in dies made from 7/8-14 threaded stock.

  

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Re: 30-30 Wesson on Martini Cadet
Reply #6 - Aug 8th, 2015 at 1:33pm
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Excellent idea, thank you.

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Re: 30-30 Wesson on Martini Cadet
Reply #7 - Aug 8th, 2015 at 2:31pm
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Thanks.

It can be done even more simply, now that I've built this one.

Weld a long nut (1/2 to 3/4" long) on the side of a 7/8-14 NUT (one that is from 1/2" to 3/4" thick -not a thin jam nut).

Thread a piece of threaded rod into it.
Lever is made with one hole (a bit larger than the rod) in the end.
Two nuts and two washers with 1/2" between the washers.  That gives wobble room for the lever.

Not as much leverage, but would work for bump die.
  

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Re: 30-30 Wesson on Martini Cadet
Reply #8 - Aug 9th, 2015 at 6:54pm
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fun day at the range.

took a handful with 50g (00 buck sized to .310) over 3 and 4 gr BE.  Shot high at 25yds, couldn't see impacts at 100. (it had rained yesterday)

Shot a dozen or so 150gr plain base tumble lubed sized to about .309.  Off hand at 100 yds it was consistent as I would expect shooting at a 6" rock in the backstop.

Cases looked clean, primers reasonable - not much flattening.  (as expected)  chambers, ejects well.

  

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