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KAF Ex Member	Double OR single vane Jul 17^th, 2015 at 12:44pm	Print Post
	Which style of wind flags/vanes, more responsive/sensitive? Tail or no tail, if so what material for a tale? Prop or No prop/Daisey wheel? Any opinions???


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BP Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 8039 Location: Westside Joined: Aug 27^th, 2006	Re: Double OR single vane Reply #1 - Jul 17^th, 2015 at 2:02pm	Print Post
	Balanced vanes, full-flying tail, and a strip of surveyor's tape.

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Myers Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 383 Joined: Mar 5^th, 2013	Re: Double OR single vane Reply #2 - Jul 17^th, 2015 at 7:36pm	Print Post
	I have tried them all. The style I ended up using now for the last 5 years is Rick Graham Flags. Single vain without daisys. Surveyors tape works for tails. If its 20 mph plus winds then i change my tails to sail cloth. Feel free to pm me if you need more info


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40_Rod Frequent Elocutionist Offline Extremism in the persuit of accuracy is not a vice Posts: 4285 Location: Knoxville, TN Joined: Apr 20^th, 2004	Re: Double OR single vane Reply #3 - Jul 19^th, 2015 at 8:54am	Print Post
	I started with were Sinclair The first thing I got rid of was the annoying props. I replaced them with a pointer to counterbalance the flag. I replaced the vanes with a slightly larger piece of chloroplast. I use a 30” piece of 1” engineer tape as a tail. The two most important things are that the flags be balanced and set square. 40 Rod


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Bulseyetom Oldtimer Offline Posts: 971 Location: Santa Maria, Ca Joined: Oct 31^st, 2010	Re: Double OR single vane Reply #4 - Jul 21^st, 2015 at 9:51pm	Print Post
	I prefer the dual vane to see the angle of the wind easier. I started with a propeller and got used to it so that is what I prefer. Surveyor's tape works great for a tail. Tom


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JerryH Frequent Elocutionist Offline ASSRA Member #10876 Posts: 1260 Location: Easton, CA Joined: Nov 9^th, 2014	Re: Double OR single vane Reply #5 - Jul 25^th, 2015 at 1:31am	Print Post
	The first picture shows what I now use. The second picture shows four flags agreeing on the wind, an uncommon occurrence here at home, or Modesto. I have gone from no flags (just started Schuetzen in 2006), to a couple of wind socks, to dual vane wind indicators, to what I use now. The dual vane indicators were easier to read for me, but were a PITA to pack and transport. Once I got used to the single vane indicators I really don't think I've given up anything. Props, Snoopy Tails, dual vs. single vanes...........it's all what you can read and what makes the most sense to you. They all need to add up for me (look the same, or know how to hold off), then the mirage needs to be right. Mirage is my final "go" to break the shot. JerryH JerryH

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win 32-40 Ex Member	Re: Double OR single vane Reply #6 - Jul 25^th, 2015 at 4:21pm	Print Post
	I Prefer the simple old fashioned style as shown in JerryH Pics. They were common about 20 years ago when I shot competitions. I love them and watch daily for weather and wind confirmations for enjoyment as well as casual shooting. I tried without daisy wheels and they were MUCH slower without.Now a pain to get the once plentiful daisies in Canada (any sources ? ) I know everyone is trying to re-invent the wheel, but I cant imagine anything better to show you everything you want to know, with quickest truest , and steadiest response


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Double OR single vane Reply #7 - Jul 25^th, 2015 at 5:06pm	Print Post
	I use the single vane with sail tail. I went to the local sign shop and had them laminate flouresent orange on one side and green on the other on a piece of 2ftX2ft cloroplast and I got six vanes out of that one piece. Cost 20.00 dollars and the tips are the drops off the cut vanes. The colors are brighter than the pictures depict. The counter balance is 1018 cold rolled. Sail tails from Fly Fishing Fundementals, pivots home brewed and some day I need to try the Daisy wheels. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) JLouis

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Jeff_Schultz ASSRA Board Member Online Posts: 1617 Location: Ransomville, NY Joined: Apr 25^th, 2004	Re: Double OR single vane Reply #8 - Jul 25^th, 2015 at 5:49pm	Print Post
	There are these: (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) I would paint them, but, maybe some of us like pastels. WOW! $18 "economy shipping" makes them $8.60 ea. Probably way more to Canada, "eh".
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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Double OR single vane Reply #9 - Jul 25^th, 2015 at 6:14pm	Print Post
	Fly Fishing Fundamentals has replacement Daisys in either Yellow or Brown for 4.00 dollars each. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) JLouis

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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7352 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: Double OR single vane Reply #10 - Jul 25^th, 2015 at 7:08pm	Print Post
	More daisy wheels with good pricing: (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) Quote: Many refer to me as the "Wind Meister". I have to agree. Frank

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JerryH Frequent Elocutionist Offline ASSRA Member #10876 Posts: 1260 Location: Easton, CA Joined: Nov 9^th, 2014	Re: Double OR single vane Reply #11 - Jul 25^th, 2015 at 11:54pm	Print Post
	I like the props/daisy wheels. Also the Snoopy Tails. All of them added together (4 flags + 1 target indicator, and an indicator on my bench, plus the wind on my back, not to mention the mirage, and sometimes something that just doesn't feel right) = total confusion for me. Unless I'm on top of my game. Then everything comes together, and I shoot well. Try them all. Decide what works/makes sense to you. JerryH

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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7352 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: Double OR single vane Reply #12 - Jul 31^st, 2015 at 6:51pm	Print Post
	These are my flags. I made two of the large one and the small is made from the tail cut of one of the large pieces of corregated plastic. The aluminum is a small piece of 3" angle, machined so the tail is in the center of the rod that the prop. is on. I like the large propeller. I watch the painted blade and try to shoot at the same speed, each time. I don't have to gage the wind speed, just watch the RPM. Regarding the twin tail, it just gives more surface area to make the flag more reactive to wind change. You can also do that by using a larger tail. Frank
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