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Bonner Full Member Offline Posts: 135 Location: middle georgia Joined: Mar 2^nd, 2015	lyman peep sight Jul 15^th, 2015 at 9:14pm	Print Post
	can some one identify this lyman sight for me ? The only thing I can find on it is lyman us pat 6ff ??/ can't make it out. Model # and valve will be a help. Thanks New guy


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BP Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 8039 Location: Westside Joined: Aug 27^th, 2006	Re: lyman peep sight Reply #1 - Jul 15^th, 2015 at 9:49pm	Print Post
	Looks like the early variant Lyman 103, with screw spacing too short for a Winchester. What is the mounting screw spacing (center to center), the height of the staff from center of the pivot to the top of the cone where the stem threads in, and there should also be a letter code stamped into the underside of the base.

	There are three kinds of men: The ones that learn by reading, the few who learn by observation, and the rest who have to pee on the electric fence and find out for themselves. Proud Noodlehead
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slumlord44 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2850 Location: Lebanon, Illinois 62254 Joined: Dec 21^st, 2007	Re: lyman peep sight Reply #2 - Jul 15^th, 2015 at 10:39pm	Print Post
	Looks like a 103. Possibly a 144. Should have a code stamped on the bottom that indicates the application.


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Kurt_701 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1021 Location: Missouri Joined: May 20^th, 2004	Re: lyman peep sight Reply #3 - Jul 15^th, 2015 at 11:17pm	Print Post
	Looks like a early Lyman 103. Here is a later model with the locking lever. It is for a Winchester 52. The bottom of the sight is generally mark with use. Kurt
	« Last Edit: Jul 15^th, 2015 at 11:24pm by Kurt_701 »
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BP Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 8039 Location: Westside Joined: Aug 27^th, 2006	Re: lyman peep sight Reply #4 - Jul 16^th, 2015 at 12:24am	Print Post
	The 144 is quite different from the 103.

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Kurt_701 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1021 Location: Missouri Joined: May 20^th, 2004	Re: lyman peep sight Reply #5 - Jul 16^th, 2015 at 7:59am	Print Post
	Here is a picture of a Lyman 144. They were used on Stevens Rifles 414, 417 and 418 series. The last one that I saw at auction went for $265. Kurt

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Bonner Full Member Offline Posts: 135 Location: middle georgia Joined: Mar 2^nd, 2015	Re: lyman peep sight Reply #6 - Jul 16^th, 2015 at 11:32am	Print Post
	First Thanks To all For Help. From your info and picture's It is a 103. I did find the letter code, it is F, I thought it what for front. It goes to show, ever an old dog can learn. This model 45 Steven is what the sight was on, that I just found on a auction.


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BP Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 8039 Location: Westside Joined: Aug 27^th, 2006	Re: lyman peep sight Reply #7 - Jul 16^th, 2015 at 3:05pm	Print Post
	FYI... I always look at the length (height) of the uprights (Lyman called the knurled barrel a "sleeve" and that part of the upright that the sleeve rotates around a "joint") on tang sights. I've encountered sights where the sleeve, joint and stem assembly are NOT correct in length for the letter code stamped into the bottom of the sight base. The parts are not that difficult to swap from one sight to another, so flea-bay buyers beware!

	There are three kinds of men: The ones that learn by reading, the few who learn by observation, and the rest who have to pee on the electric fence and find out for themselves. Proud Noodlehead
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slumlord44 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2850 Location: Lebanon, Illinois 62254 Joined: Dec 21^st, 2007	Re: lyman peep sight Reply #8 - Jul 16^th, 2015 at 9:18pm	Print Post
	It gets interesting when someone has switched parts around in the past. The 144 is somewhat similar to the 103 in the fact that both are windage adjustable but they are definitely different. The 144 is rather scarce because it was only used on the 417 and 418 Walnut Hill's.


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BP Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 8039 Location: Westside Joined: Aug 27^th, 2006	Re: lyman peep sight Reply #9 - Jul 16^th, 2015 at 11:25pm	Print Post
	Schuetzendave wrote on Jul 16^th, 2015 at 12:04pm: "F" was the application code for Stevens Favorite "G" was the application code for Stevens 65, 66 "HP" was the application code for Stevens Model 425 "NP" was the application code for Stevens New Model Pocket Rifle "P" was the application code for Stevens Ideal "PC" was the application code for Stevens Crackshot "RP" was the application code for Stevens Reliable Pocket Rifle "SM" was the application code for Stevens Model 75 (and other rifles) "ST" was the application code for Stevens Repeater Model 80 "SV" was the application code for Stevens Repeater Model 70 Now I have to admit that I'd love to see the 103 with the "RP" for the Stevens Reliable Pocket Rifle.

	There are three kinds of men: The ones that learn by reading, the few who learn by observation, and the rest who have to pee on the electric fence and find out for themselves. Proud Noodlehead
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BP Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 8039 Location: Westside Joined: Aug 27^th, 2006	Re: lyman peep sight Reply #10 - Jul 18^th, 2015 at 1:33am	Print Post
	A nice scarce 1(A?) tang sight on a really nice Stevens Pocket Rifle. Looks like the Stevens combination rear folding peep (the rear dovetail tangent sight) has been replaced, while the Stevens combination globe front is still present. I'm taking a liking to that accessory trigger over-travel stop screw. Thanks for posting the pic, Dave.

	There are three kinds of men: The ones that learn by reading, the few who learn by observation, and the rest who have to pee on the electric fence and find out for themselves. Proud Noodlehead
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Bonner Full Member Offline Posts: 135 Location: middle georgia Joined: Mar 2^nd, 2015	Re: lyman peep sight Reply #11 - Jul 19^th, 2015 at 4:25pm	Print Post
	The lyman peep sight has found a new home. I found this little darling at a local auction. In 32 Ideal most were afraid of or had never heard of it??? Think goodness It did not cost a kidney. 3-d was ready with the dies and rocky mountain cartridge Co. was ready with new shiney cases. and yes it shoots like dream. Bonner


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slumlord44 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2850 Location: Lebanon, Illinois 62254 Joined: Dec 21^st, 2007	Re: lyman peep sight Reply #12 - Jul 19^th, 2015 at 9:52pm	Print Post
	Beautiful 44. Anything in .32 Ideal is hard to find and usually brings a premium. I found a 44 1/2 in .32 Ideal a year or so back after a long search. Good find.


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