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Pentz Senior Forum Member Offline Funf und Zwanzig mit den Hut Posts: 435 Location: Vancouver, WA Joined: Sep 4^th, 2014	My 32-20 CPA Enforcer day at the range Jul 10^th, 2015 at 1:14am	Print Post
	The rifle loves the Enforcer, I see what you all are talking about. Working up from 12.0 gr with Rem 6.5 primers, it settled down very consistently at 12.6 gr. I did fire one group with 12.7 but it went erratic and the primers were flat. The 12.6 load also shows pressure signs but 5-round groups at 100 yards were around .5 inch with the Hoch bullet. Remington 9.5 primers were erratic, and the Fed. 205 more so. With the Saeco 538, however, the Fed. 205 shows promise. I need to graduate to 10-round groups and move out to 200 to see if these were for real. A total of 20 5-round groups fired, BTW. Made for a long day. Next time I'll take the chrono.

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rkaires Frequent Elocutionist Offline No Stronger Bond Posts: 1672 Location: Dingmans Ferry, PA Joined: Oct 26^th, 2012	Re: My 32-20 CPA Enforcer day at the range Reply #1 - Jul 10^th, 2015 at 6:56am	Print Post
	The 205 Hoch / 12.6gr load does look promising. Curious to see what the velocity is. What make / twist is your barrel? Bob

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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: My 32-20 CPA Enforcer day at the range Reply #2 - Jul 10^th, 2015 at 9:05am	Print Post
	Very nice results for your first outing Pentz.

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40_Rod Frequent Elocutionist Offline Extremism in the persuit of accuracy is not a vice Posts: 4285 Location: Knoxville, TN Joined: Apr 20^th, 2004	Re: My 32-20 CPA Enforcer day at the range Reply #3 - Jul 10^th, 2015 at 10:21am	Print Post
	You don't say if you are using a wad or not. If not try a cork wad placed .050" to .100" off the powder and orient the powder to the wad. This may necessitate trying the 9 1/2s and the Federal 205Ms again. 40 Rod


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Pentz Senior Forum Member Offline Funf und Zwanzig mit den Hut Posts: 435 Location: Vancouver, WA Joined: Sep 4^th, 2014	Re: My 32-20 CPA Enforcer day at the range Reply #4 - Jul 10^th, 2015 at 1:34pm	Print Post
	The barrel is a lapped and gauged Shilen .3201, 1-14. the powder is held in by a .15" floral foam wad at the mouth, powder is shaken to the front before inserting. I appreciate the over-powder wad advice but I'm afraid of ringing my barrel. Work on the primers will continue once this load has been wrung out some more.

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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7624 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: My 32-20 CPA Enforcer day at the range Reply #5 - Jul 10^th, 2015 at 1:42pm	Print Post
	Pentz, Are you using some cases that have large primer pockets? The Rem 9 1/2's are large or did you mean to say 7 1/2's Frank

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JackHughs Oldtimer Offline Posts: 657 Location: Riverbank Joined: Sep 27^th, 2008	Re: My 32-20 CPA Enforcer day at the range Reply #6 - Jul 10^th, 2015 at 2:41pm	Print Post
	Pentz wrote on Jul 10^th, 2015 at 1:14am: The rifle loves the Enforcer, I see what you all are talking about. Working up from 12.0 gr with Rem 6.5 primers, it settled down very consistently at 12.6 gr. I did fire one group with 12.7 but it went erratic and the primers were flat. The 12.6 load also shows pressure signs but 5-round groups at 100 yards were around .5 inch with the Hoch bullet. Remington 9.5 primers were erratic, and the Fed. 205 more so. With the Saeco 538, however, the Fed. 205 shows promise. I need to graduate to 10-round groups and move out to 200 to see if these were for real. A total of 20 5-round groups fired, BTW. Made for a long day. Next time I'll take the chrono. My best load for the .32-20 CPA was 13.0 grains of 4100. The bullet was a 211 grain 5-groove Mos. The primer was Federal GM205M. I used a newsprint wad to hold the powder hard against the primer. The velocity was approximately 1500 fps. Accuracy was great but the load was hard on cases. Most cases showed incipient case head separation after 8-9 firings. At 12.6 grains of Enforcer, you may want to keep an eye on the cases as well. The .32-20 case is not particularly robust. Those 100 yard results look great and I hope your 200 yard test go as well. JackHughs

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Pentz Senior Forum Member Offline Funf und Zwanzig mit den Hut Posts: 435 Location: Vancouver, WA Joined: Sep 4^th, 2014	Re: My 32-20 CPA Enforcer day at the range Reply #7 - Jul 10^th, 2015 at 11:20pm	Print Post
	Frank, yes, I meant 7.5. Mr. Hughes, I'm pushing the limit with the 12.6, primer cratering and flattening. I'm getting high strikes and have sent an email off to Gail regarding fixes. You can see the primer flattening and block drag on the primer cratering. The index marks are at 12:00 in the breech. The weather was pretty warm that day. It's cooled off 15 degrees here in the northwet and I will see what happens Sunday with another 100 cases. The case heads are showing definition but no ring yet. But heck, if I can get stirling accuracy out of 8-9 loading limits that is fine with me.

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JackHughs Oldtimer Offline Posts: 657 Location: Riverbank Joined: Sep 27^th, 2008	Re: My 32-20 CPA Enforcer day at the range Reply #8 - Jul 11^th, 2015 at 1:00am	Print Post
	Pentz wrote on Jul 10^th, 2015 at 11:20pm: Frank, yes, I meant 7.5. Mr. Hughes, I'm pushing the limit with the 12.6, primer cratering and flattening. I'm getting high strikes and have sent an email off to Gail regarding fixes. You can see the primer flattening and block drag on the primer cratering. The index marks are at 12:00 in the breech. The weather was pretty warm that day. It's cooled off 15 degrees here in the northwet and I will see what happens Sunday with another 100 cases. The case heads are showing definition but no ring yet. But heck, if I can get stirling accuracy out of 8-9 loading limits that is fine with me. Hi, The high strikes can usually be fixed by changing out the link between the lever and breechblock. I had a similar problem with a .32-40 CPA and Gail provided a link with proper spacing. JackHughs

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40_Rod Frequent Elocutionist Offline Extremism in the persuit of accuracy is not a vice Posts: 4285 Location: Knoxville, TN Joined: Apr 20^th, 2004	Re: My 32-20 CPA Enforcer day at the range Reply #9 - Jul 11^th, 2015 at 9:10am	Print Post
	If you seat your wad .050" or more then you will not ring your chamber. I have shot thousands of rounds through my Borchardt and the chamber is perfect. 40 Rod


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oneatatime Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4425 Location: Rocky Mountains Joined: Oct 30^th, 2011	Re: My 32-20 CPA Enforcer day at the range Reply #10 - Jul 11^th, 2015 at 7:38pm	Print Post
	The report on the Quigley blow up was: he apparently had rung the chamber, and was advised not to be shooting the gun. But he continued on with his charge of 5744 with a wad used to hold the powder back against the primer. So you are at least .050 away from a possible blowup...


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JerryH Frequent Elocutionist Offline ASSRA Member #10876 Posts: 1323 Location: Easton, CA Joined: Nov 9^th, 2014	Re: My 32-20 CPA Enforcer day at the range Reply #11 - Jul 11^th, 2015 at 10:08pm	Print Post
	Pentz, Very impressive, to say the least. Just an FYI. Looking at the picture of your primers I see you're shaving a little brass. That's not necessarily a bad thing. I would recommend that you drop your breechblock, remove the firing pin/bushing, and clean any shavings. I do this after every outing/match. If you let the brass shavings build up you'll start getting erratic ignition. Learned that the hard way. For what it's worth CCI BR4 primers are working really well in my 25-20WCF. JerryH

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