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Lyman STS Ocular question
Jun 27th, 2015 at 10:23pm
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My 25x STS is pretty well dialed in.  I have another in 30x but the "click" parts in the windage and elevation turrets were beyond repair.  Is changing the power simply swapping oculars or is it more complicated?  Also, has anyone found a substitute for the rubber eye cups?  I keep looking at stool footings....but there must be a product close enough to work until a genuine one is found.
  

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Reply #1 - Jun 27th, 2015 at 10:34pm
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Parsons Scope Service is now repairing the "clicks" on my
15X STS. windage knob.   Charge is $90 with return shipping

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Reply #2 - Jun 27th, 2015 at 11:41pm
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rubber eye cups are usually available on ebay, I believe they're $20. They're reproductions,,,,,,I guess.   ...MIKE...
  
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Reply #3 - Jun 28th, 2015 at 12:10am
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Another source is Shiloh Sharps.  They look exactly like the one on my 18x Unertl.   

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Reply #4 - Jun 28th, 2015 at 10:17am
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Thanks!  But...is not the power of the scope in the ocular lens body, which can be screwed off and swapped with my other until it is repaired?
  

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Reply #5 - Jun 28th, 2015 at 11:14am
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Pentz wrote on Jun 28th, 2015 at 10:17am:
Thanks!  But...is not the power of the scope in the ocular lens body, which can be screwed off and swapped with my other until it is repaired?


It would only take about 5 min. to find out. You can't hurt the scope by swaping the ocular lens bodys.

The threaded lens cell is made to adjust the clearity of the cross hairs, it's made to screw in and out to adjust for differing eye sight.

Measure the distance from the cross hair ring (it should be marked with the power of the scope) to get a return reference on both and then swap them and see if it increases the magnification.

If it does, do a fine adjustment of it by pointing it at the sky and screwing in or out to get a clear, well definded cross hair.

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Reply #6 - Jun 28th, 2015 at 2:09pm
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Pentz the answer is yes to the power location and it was not unusual to have more than one power to swap out for different shooting disciplines.
  

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Reply #7 - Jun 28th, 2015 at 8:22pm
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frnkeore wrote on Jun 28th, 2015 at 11:14am:
Pentz wrote on Jun 28th, 2015 at 10:17am:
Thanks!  But...is not the power of the scope in the ocular lens body, which can be screwed off and swapped with my other until it is repaired?


It would only take about 5 min. to find out. You can't hurt the scope by swaping the ocular lens bodys.

The threaded lens cell is made to adjust the clearity of the cross hairs, it's made to screw in and out to adjust for differing eye sight.

Measure the distance from the cross hair ring (it should be marked with the power of the scope) to get a return reference on both and then swap them and see if it increases the magnification.

If it does, do a fine adjustment of it by pointing it at the sky and screwing in or out to get a clear, well definded cross hair.

Frank

Frank,

I remember a discussion with Gil about this, and lets just say that from the beginning of manufacture, Lyman should have marked the power directly on the main tube body, and not on the crosshair adjustment ring.

  

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Reply #8 - Jun 28th, 2015 at 8:26pm
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Appreciate the confirmation, gents.  Ironically, my 25x is marked on the ocular, the 30 x on the ring.
  

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Reply #9 - Jun 29th, 2015 at 8:44pm
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+1 on changing the ocular ring.  I do so from 15x to 20x -- the latter for outdoors usage, the former for indoors.  It seems older Lymans had the power stamped into the ocular ring rather than the cross hair retainer.  Both of my scopes were "older", making the swap easy.  I have a scope "body" mounted on each of two rifles, and depending on where they are going, i o move the eye piece.  I followed the advice of a previous poster -- measure the distance from a reference point to the ocular to get close to final focus; makes the process go pretty quick.  I am usually within +/-1.5 revolutions of focus.
  
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Reply #10 - Jun 30th, 2015 at 4:37pm
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I have a set of Unertl increasing and decreasing eyepieces. They are supposed to add or subtract 30%. Never used them so I can't say how well they work.
  
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Re: Lyman STS Ocular question
Reply #11 - Jun 30th, 2015 at 5:08pm
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I tested this theory today. I interchanged the eyepieces on both Unertl and Lyman target scopes. Unertl eyepeices were swapped between 4,10, and 20 power. The Lymans between 10 and 20 power. I intentionally used higher and lower powers so that the change would be significant enough to notice. Thinking that slight power changes might be more difficult to detect. My conclusion is that it makes no difference at all. A 4 power Unertl with the eyepiece from a 20 power Unertl is still a 4 power Unertl. A 10 power Lyman with the eyepiece from a 20 power Lyman is still a 10 power Lyman. I don't know what other folks are experiencing but this was my experience. I think I would notice a difference with this great a spread in the power.
  
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Re: Lyman STS Ocular question
Reply #12 - Jun 30th, 2015 at 7:43pm
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I just did a switch and got no change in power.  Both scopes are Super Targetspots with the power on the ocular not the cross-hair ring,  One is 12x and the other 20x.  Looking through the oculars themselves (they will focus at about 1/2") the magnification is exactly the same.  Bummer!  I was hoping to turn the 12x into a nice 20 with the ocular from a ratty 20x with a delaminated front element.

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Reply #13 - Jun 30th, 2015 at 7:55pm
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Again, it would have been better if Lyman had stamped the power directly on the main tube body.
Some time back, there were some occurances of low power scopes being sold as high power scopes. The reticle adjusting rings or occular assemblies with the higher power marking had been placed swapped over onto lower power main tube bodies.
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Reply #14 - Jul 1st, 2015 at 8:33am
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I tried the Unertl increasing eyepiece on a 14X noticeable increase.
  
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