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So if you drop one in a pot of boiling water, it gets fully consumed?
I suppose it would be easier than screwing on the brass bases to the bullets like FW Mann did.

32-40 bullets shot through an Ohler Ballistcs System, the same system used by major manufactors of bullets firearms etc. not a simple chronograh provided an additional consistant 15fps. muzzle velocity. Why is an unknown but they do make a differance.
Is the comment about boiling water a question that a child would ask in humor or were actually serious as the thread was meant to be?

JLouis

From the Felting 101 link on the Dura-Felt web page.

"Felt can withstand maximum temperature 100 degree C OR 212 degree F. Anything higher will burn the felt and turn it into charcoal."

Jack

So would not what they say hold merit and end that part of the discussion from further debate? Even though it is very difficult at times for this group to stay on track with the original post could we all please try and give it ago for a change. If you don't or haven't used wads per the original posters question please
refrian from making an unjustifiable comment as there are some here earger to learn from those who have that might be willing to share. 

I have used wads seated at the base of the bullet with great success with the end result finishing in the top
three of hard contested benchrest matches over the years. Myself and John have disscussed this in PM's so so he is not looking for any more of my input he is looking for input from others who might have experianced the same or maybe the opposite?

JLouis

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In order for wool felt wads to produce any "energy" when it burns to charcoal as Asha, the owner of Duro-Felt states, the charcoal would have to contain 2 energy producing ingredients.  Glucose (sugar) and creosote.  Burning wood, an energy producer, contains both these ingredients of glucose and creosote.  Wool has neither of these therefore it could not produce any energy. 

I believe Asha would have better to have used the word ash.

Black powder is made with potassium nitrate - sulfur and charcoal, an energy producer in black powder.  The charcoal is obtained from wood chared in a retort at approximately 300-320 degrees Centigrade after the wood is ricked, dried and the bark removed.  The wood that contains the most glucose and creosote is Alder Blackthorn branches primary harvested in the Spring.  This is when it has the most sugar and Alder wood has a high concentration of creosote.  The 300 C temperature is the standard so the creosote is not flashed off

I am a BPCR shooter and use felt wads extensively.  So did Harry Pope who punched out his wads from old wool felt hats. The primary purpose of using a wad is to protect the base of the bullet on ignition. I have dug BPCR reload bullets shot with felt wads out of the berm with edges as sharp as when they dropped from the mold. For breech seating using a wad, including felt, protects the base when seated and also on ignition. When J Louis told me he used fiber wads for breech seating, I concluded that felt wads would do the same having shot thousands of BPCR reloads using them.  Then the idea of adhesive based felt wads came to mind and I ordered a few hundred.  Pre affixing the wads to a tray of bullets deemed a better way than one at a time at the range with a possibility any type of wad might be canted in the chamber

The Reason for the Post and Again - Thanks John!

I use felt wads occasionally. They are not consumed by BP or smokeless. 

So, you're sticking the sticky felt wads/pads in the mouth of the shell? With the sticky back up?  Upon firing the wad/pad sticks to the base of the bullet? Is that correct? 

Oh, you have them stuck to the base of the bullets. Okay, why? Accuracy?  Is it working? I really doubt it's a new idea. "Nothing new under the sun", thing. 


            Joe.

Thank you JohnBoy, for responding to the "fuel" suggestion. I really did present it as a possibility in the event nobody had questioned why the increase in velocity when using the wad. I didn't know that no energy would be produced. Heck, I was taught that most energy IS related to heat. Maybe you meant no energy was produced by high pressure expansion of gas? 

Anyhow, I'd like to hear why that increase. It can't take much room, so I didn't think that would account for much, nor would it seal any better than other things, would it? I like to listen, learn, ask questions. I don't use wads, yet.  Hey, it's just my way of reducing "variables".