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Reply #15 - Jun 21st, 2015 at 9:24pm
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there is scientific statistically calculated recoil, and then there is perceived recoil  here are so many factors involved in "perceived recoil" that it is hard to make anything but the most general statements of personal opinion.

consider that shooting the very same load in the very same rifle offhand, off the bench, kneeling, and prone can very well create four different sensations and reactions to the recoil----and yet statistically they should be the same.    Likewise one can take that specific rifle and mount the barreled action in a different stock and fire the same loaded round from any specific position and again sense two different recoil sensations.
  

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Reply #16 - Jun 29th, 2015 at 9:04am
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JLouis wrote on Jun 8th, 2015 at 2:48am:
It really boils down to some being more recoil sensitive than others and really has nothing to do with one's build. There are some pretty small framed Women shooting 45-70's in BPCR SillyWett and some very large framed men shooting 38-55's.


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Reply #17 - Jun 29th, 2015 at 1:16pm
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dsm wrote on Jun 7th, 2015 at 10:21pm:
seems prevailing opinion says a heavier body can handle more recoil. i disagree. i think a lighter person will move with the recoil wheras a heavier person will absorb more recoil.     opinins??


Given the same initial positions (standing, seated):
It should take a smaller fraction of the total available amount of applied force (recoil) to overcome the (at rest) inertia of a lighter body (person) and place that body in motion.
And since the recoil is not applied in a direct line with the center mass of the body, but is offset (distance from center mass to the shoulder or arm of the person), the remaining portion of the applied force is increasingly deflected as the body rotates away from the line of the applied force.
A larger fraction of the total available amount of applied force (recoil) would be required to overcome the at rest inertia of a heavier body, and... 
The heavier body (or body with a "heavier build") should experience more "felt recoil" than the lighter body.

  

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Reply #18 - Jun 29th, 2015 at 7:18pm
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if a person's body is moved by the recoil, some of the force is dissipated.    If he does not move with the recoil he must absorb it.    try shooting a full load 12 gauge slug load offhand and then shooting it off the bench.  Same load same gun. the statistical recoil is the same but the shot will feel "different" and the bench shots will probably bruise you more.   There's a good reason guys hunting with elephant rifles seldom shoot from a prone position.
  

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Reply #19 - Jun 29th, 2015 at 7:27pm
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my initial post:


I think that might be true if the recoil was directed at center of mass.
As we are all about the same from head to shoulder, I think any difference is minimal.

I think BP said it better.
  

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Reply #20 - Jul 1st, 2015 at 6:26am
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WAIT A MINUTE!

Light vs heavy PEOPLE?

Like I've got a CHOICE?

OK, I could loose a bit, but I'll ALWAYS be about 6'4".

This discussion is academic.

Suck it in, pull the trigger and ENJOY the attitude changing recoil!
  

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Reply #21 - Jul 1st, 2015 at 10:07pm
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According to a friend and fellow shooter, recoil is all in your mind.  He'd like to just once read an article that didn't complain about recoil.  I don't agree and he doesn't seem to have much to say when I tell him that black and blue spot is on my shoulder, not on my mind. Personally, I don't mind recoil at all, as long as it's being applied to someone else.

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Reply #22 - Jul 2nd, 2015 at 8:20pm
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I think a lot of it is situational.  I used to cringe at the thought of shooting and M14 full auto, and a lot of folks agreed - except for the one who used it full auto in VN.   

  

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Reply #23 - Jul 4th, 2015 at 4:39pm
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I used to be pretty tolerant to recoil.  Three years ago I had shoulder surgery in my right shoulder.  The surgeon placed a stud in my shoulder to tie off the stitches and I have been sensitive to recoil ever since.  I am slowly building up my tolerance as time go by but after shooting 100 rounds of 20GA at sporting clays yesterday my shoulder still feels it.
  
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Reply #24 - Jul 4th, 2015 at 7:51pm
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20 to 30 rounds of max load 458 Win Mag on Sunday afternoon hurt until through Wednesday.

There's one reason I like 40 caliber over 45 caliber.
  

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Reply #25 - Jul 4th, 2015 at 8:39pm
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Cat,
The 458 Win Mag is tough.

The US government supplies indigenous Alaskan Natives (Eskimos) with 458's to help them hunt. (lot of big game up there)
The 458 at the time was only chambered in the Supergrade stock as it has an extra recoil lug. It's expensive.

When we first started using composite stocks, I was asked to put one together on a 458, the thinking being it wouldn't crack or split.
It was much lighter than with the Supergrade stock.
I shot it , 25 rounds, it hurt . 
I was wearing the best Past shooting vest with pad and an additional pad on top.

I called the head of engineering, a hunter and fairly big guy. He shot it and flinched a bit, he thought it was viable.
We called the head of marketing in to try it.
He took one shot, winced and said nothing.
He didn't return to work for 2 days.
  

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Reply #26 - Jul 20th, 2015 at 8:05am
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mjs3240 wrote on Jul 4th, 2015 at 4:39pm:
I used to be pretty tolerant to recoil.  Three years ago I had shoulder surgery in my right shoulder.  The surgeon placed a stud in my shoulder to tie off the stitches and I have been sensitive to recoil ever since.  I am slowly building up my tolerance as time go by but after shooting 100 rounds of 20GA at sporting clays yesterday my shoulder still feels it.    


Having a left master eye, I used to use a shotgun on my left shoulder, and my current gun is a 10-bore.

Now I have a pacemaker under my left collarbone, i shall have to wear an eyepatch and move the butt over to my right.

Shooting rifle is not affected.

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