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Reply #15 - May 26th, 2015 at 6:18pm
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Schuetzen was not an activity open to everyone, for a vast host of reasons, and there were vestiges of exclusivity. . .  .  .  .  .  .and others too numerous to mention. Dr.Maynard


I would like to expand slightly upon my observations and information by informing readers that the Massachusetts Rifle Association was organized predominately by professional men who were held in high esteem within their respective communities.

For instance, the Association's first president was Doctor Isaac H. Hazelton.  

Also, the Association's panel of honorable directors was made up, in part, by;

Governor (Mass) Alexander Hamilton Rice
Major General Benjamin F. Butler
Major General Henry W. Benham
Rear Admiral Henry K. Thatcher
Mayor (Boston) Samuel C. Cobb

All well respected and highly intelligent shooting enthusiasts.

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Reply #16 - May 26th, 2015 at 6:52pm
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Just trying to figure how those old timers found time..or rather the energy to cast a supply of bullets, make their own lubes..if they didn't purchase them, gather up all the equipment and travel to a range after putting in a 12 hour day..workers had to strike for a 10hr. day.  I'm working 10hr. days 6 days a week..and finally made first trip to range this last holiday!
  
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Reply #17 - May 26th, 2015 at 8:28pm
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our area (Midwest) seemed to have a lot of farmers as well as jewelers, doctors. Many belonged to turner associations (just good Germans).
  
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Reply #18 - May 26th, 2015 at 8:41pm
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Schuetzen was not an activity open to everyone, for a vast host of reasons, and there were vestiges of exclusivity. . .  .  .  .  .  .and others too numerous to mention. Dr.Maynard


I would like to expand slightly upon my observations and information by informing readers that the Massachusetts Rifle Association was organized predominately by professional men who were held in high esteem within their respective communities.

For instance, the Association's first president was Doctor Isaac H. Hazelton.  

Also, the Association's panel of honorable directors was made up, in part, by;

Governor (Mass) Alexander Hamilton Rice
Major General Benjamin F. Butler
Major General Henry W. Benham
Rear Admiral Henry K. Thatcher
Mayor (Boston) Samuel C. Cobb

All well respected and highly intelligent shooting enthusiasts.

Dr.Maynard


It's not surprising that influential people would run an organization like that. I would guess they were respected, and also had the time. Doesn't mean the membership was all that sort, but possibly that the shooting members might not have the time or means to be in the officer's positions.

A lot of shooting teams were put together amongst church members. A Sunday after church was time for a picnic, and a match between churches. Most average folks didn't belong to gun clubs, but they still shot on Sunday.
  

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Reply #19 - May 26th, 2015 at 9:45pm
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What was the purpose / intent of the original post? 

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Reply #20 - May 27th, 2015 at 1:47am
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FYI, from what I have learned over the years, many of the old schuetzen clubs were large wealthy German social vereins. German was widely spoken in the US and people gathered at these clubs to do lots of things, particularly drink beer and eat, shooting was only one of the festivities. Schuetzen clubs were popular before the Civil War; the club at New Braunfels, Texas was formed in 1849. Although many of these clubs had wealthy patrons, most of the shooters were working class folks. If you were a good shot you could win a lot of money in cash, prizes and medals. Many of us still remember August Westergaard whose father was Chris Westergaard, and who were both well known for being good offhand shooters. Chris Westergaard was a farmer and won his first schuetzen rifle in a match, during the depression he had to melt down his gold metals to pay bills. Schuetzen clubs were popular until WWI when Anti-German sentiment turned them into "Shooting Unions." The final blow was the Volstead Act that closed their bars and sealed their doom.  Undecided

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Reply #21 - May 27th, 2015 at 7:38am
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Also i believe many of the original groups started as milita groups, that is why you see so many officers they were still in the days of Indian wars.
  
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Re: American Schuetzen History
Reply #22 - May 27th, 2015 at 8:33am
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One quick note the Major in Major Ned Roberts was an honorarium not a rank. While Ned did shoot with a National Guard unit for a while there is no record of him ever being an officer or attaining the rank of Major.

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Reply #23 - May 27th, 2015 at 8:59am
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my understanding is that American shooters had engaged in recreational competitive target shooting-at -the-mark in various formats as part of normal life in rural and frontier communities where shooting skill had significant advantage--and where semi-serious militia activity took place.  the "schuetzen sport" itself as such did not develop until it was imported by the second-wave of Germanic immigrants in the decade or two prior to the Civil War with a significant influx of middle class businessman and professionals who were seeking opportunity and fleeing the social upheavals of the era.  (as opposed to the earlier wave--mostly made up of religious refugees and agrarian folk with related crafts and trades).  One has to look at the folk tradition of shooting sports in the Germanic states with city/town militias and the guild structure to see the development of the formal sport we recognize as "schuetzen" as opposed to peasant farmers and hunters engaging in ad-hoc recreational competition. 

As I view it the immigrant Germanic community preserved their culture with the organization of the recreational structure that gave the exercise clubs ("Turners" for gymnastics) but there were also musical drama literary etc etc groups.  and of course the "german" enclaves, with their newspapers breweries and beer gardens.  The imported organized German shooting traditions were part and parcel of this.   This is pretty clearly demonstrated of one looks at the non-shooting parts of the recreational parks we collectively call "schuetzen-parks"---they were the country-clubs of the era with a complete menu of recreational opportunity.

over time there was a melding of the American and the Germanic shooting traditions. it was strongly influenced by a number of factors,  the German "marching" societies and bands,  the fad for community elite costumed Militia companies that swept the urban areas in the generation before the Civil War along with the growth of numerous fraternal clubs, volunteer firefighters,  and 'secret societies" who created "uniforms" and participated in parades and civic events (as well as politics in many cities).
The Civil War had a profound effect in may way, in part by democratizing the whole "shooting experience", and of course igniting the rapid advance in firearms technology.  communities frequently provided volunteer regiments raised among their ethnic enclaves, The most prevalent being the German and Irish regiments and brigades.    more to follow
  

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Reply #24 - May 27th, 2015 at 9:29am
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After the war these groups became even more active in their communities and in politics----especially with veterans issues.   There were numerous German language GAR groups in cities with a strong German enclave.

As technology transitioned from muzzle loading percussion to breech-loading cartridge arms and commercial arms production transitional for war-driven military needs to an expanding civilian market as the trans-Mississippi west was increasingly opened to settlement.  Shooting sports took a larger and larger part in the national 'sports" culture along with rowing (in the east) prize-fighting, and horse racing.  (all events that also involved both alcohol and gambling)     The suburban german community's recreational parks at the outer terminus of metropolitan trolly and tram lines provided welcome escape from the urban environment.

the failure of many Civil War recruits to demonstrate "traditional american-rifleman skills" lead to state and federal programs to promote shooting sports.  international competition helped and lead to various state and national shooting sports organizations which calibrated n the original NRA.  Once again we can see the melding of the (largely) middle-class urban Germanic-tradition Schuetzen with the larger trends in overall American shooting sports evolution with the gradual entry of more non-Germans into the formal offhand competitions. 
Factor in the developments in transportation (railroads spanning and connecting the nation) and communication (the telegraph, a nationwide mails service, and a proliferation of newspapers all competition for the eyes of the readers) and one can see how the sport took off from what had once been pretty much a middle class ethnically oriented speciality to become a national phenomena.
The economics paper to me to have been driven an large part by the marketing activities of the economic interests who profited most from the large state and national events,  the media, the arms industry, and of course the local community promoters, hospitality services and of course the food and beverage services.   
Because of the roots in the Germanic-schuetzen tradition we continue to see a lot of middle-class Germanic names but we also see a lot of professional social-class shooters who could afford the time and equipment to maximize their skills and gain status in their community
  

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Reply #25 - May 27th, 2015 at 9:44am
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As a comment on Military titles:  We have had a long history in this country of Honorific military titles being used as status-markers in civilian life.  Some may have been indeed bonafide military titles earlier in their lives whether in regular military or state, local, or social military groups. Some states (notoriously KY) award honorific military titles for civic or social achievement with little on no military context. There were also self awarded and self-proclaimed for status. 
The habit of awarding "brevet" (temporary or discharge) ranks seriously inflated the number of "generals" "colonels" "majors and "captains"   ( "General Custer" at Little Bighorn was actually officially a Lieutenant Colonel--he was brevetted to temporary "Major General of Volunteers" during the Civil War)
  

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Reply #26 - May 27th, 2015 at 11:10am
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American Schuetzen History 

Might be a good series or story for the Single Shot Rifle Journal.
  
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Reply #27 - May 27th, 2015 at 11:55am
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One of the things that originally attracted me to single shot shooting was the open friendliness and corresponding willingness to share knowledge and information. I experienced this a a rookie and continue to experience it now. I've never gone to a shoot and had to establish my pedigree. Nor have I been asked about my title or credentials. I've enjoyed the friendship of some accomplished shooters, collectors and gunsmiths who come from all walks of life. These are just some of the aspects of schuetzen shooting that I find extremely rewarding. They are what keep me involved.
  
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Reply #28 - May 27th, 2015 at 12:24pm
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This is one of my personal heroes; Philo Jacoby came to California in the 1840's and worked for Swiss businessman John Sutter. At that time the area around Sutter's Fort was known as New Helvetia or New Switzerland, the Swiss had monthly rifle matchs where they taught Jacoby to shoot. Jacoby was the son of a Rabbi and a printer by trade, he became a notable rifle shot and a life long promoter of Schuetzen Unionism und Schützenverein Gemütlichkeit until his death in the 1920's. At one point he was one of the best rifle shots in the world.
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Reply #29 - May 27th, 2015 at 4:50pm
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Very Very Interesting thank you so much for sharing S.Bob.
  

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