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Old poor eyes and iron sights?
May 6th, 2015 at 10:56am
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    Hi All:

     I recently discovered that my old yes and iron sight are not a good combination.  I can not see well enough to use the iron sights!

     What to do? I have new glasses but they are not the answer.  I guess that I must give up iron sights and admit that old age has caught up with me.  I shot my Hi Wall and Win 92 for the first time yesterday and the best that I could do was a 12" group at 50 yards with both guns.

      Suggestions?

                                           Tia,

                                           Zeke
  
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Reply #1 - May 6th, 2015 at 11:07am
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MVA makes some nice scopes.
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Reply #2 - May 6th, 2015 at 11:47am
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Zeke, I recently had my eyes fixed due to some cataracts. I had become like you in regards to Iron sights, and even somewhat with scopes. Now, I need to wear reading glasses for small print up close. Regular vision, including all gun sights is amazing now. I'd forgotten what a wonderful world it is out there when you can see it better. My glasses had been changed three times in less than two years to keep up (haha to that). What I'm saying is to find out if something like this is your problem. Your shooting will be more fun, for sure, but the better part is the rest of the things out there- like family and all. By the way, the operations were painless and fast Pat
  
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Reply #3 - May 6th, 2015 at 12:39pm
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Zeke,
If it's poor vision do to cataracts, then by all means get the operation. Many of use here in the N/W had to spot shoots for a dear friend that had that problem.

If it's just that your vision (in ablity to focus) and glasses can correct it, then try a tube sight. They qualify as "iron sights" in matches. I went to a tube sight 4 years ago and after I got used to shooting aperture sight again, I can shoot iron sights as well as I did when I was still in my 40's.

The sight picture becomes a lot clearer with a tube sight as there is no light inside it.

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Reply #4 - May 6th, 2015 at 1:14pm
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If your 92 and 1885 have barrel mounted open sights try a tang sight. Both those rifles should have the holes already drilled and tapped. 
I gave up on my 94 for deer hunting for a couple years until I bought an OLDER model Lyman tang sight. That 90 year old rifle has taken more deer for me than any other single rifle I've used.
  
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Reply #5 - May 6th, 2015 at 9:10pm
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tang sights with variable apertures can solve a lot of problems and at least in ASSRA you can have a corrective lens in a rear sight.   one of my euroschuetzens came with a little German adjustable corrective lens thing for the rear diopter.   after years and years I can actually SEE with "iron' sights-----now I just have to learn to shoot with them.
  

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Reply #6 - May 7th, 2015 at 1:22am
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Have you tried the Merit or Gehmann adjustable appature diopters that fit on regular glasses?  I too could not see open sights...  These really sharpen up those open sights.  I can still shoot either appature or tang sights as well as I ever could.
  
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Reply #7 - May 7th, 2015 at 8:38am
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Sometimes you just have to go to a scope or stop shooting. I have reached that point due to macula degeneration and it is scopes or nothing. Hope that is not the case for the original poster.
  
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Reply #8 - May 17th, 2015 at 3:52pm
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If you wear glasses and the last pair didn't work for shooting...

Do what the guys in the old days did.   It worked for me back when I was in my 40s just like it did for them.   I got a pair of glasses for shooting.  They weren't the usual update of your prescription like the ones you just got that don't work now.   

You get a pair of glasses for shooting that will have the sights sharp for your dominant eye and the target sharp for the other eye.   It works great.  In fact a lot of contact lenses are setup just like that and are called bifocal contacts.  They don't care which eye is dominant for those.  The eye doctors are quite familiar with those.    The only difference for the shooting glasses is the doctor has to know which of your eyes needs to see the sights clearly.   

When I get my regular glasses prescription updated, I tell the doctor I want two prescriptions and he charges nothing extra since he does nothing more extra other than writing a 2nd sheet of paper.   

Those kind of glasses have been working for older shooters since eye glasses were made with bifocal lenses.   The older shooters who really didn't want to quit shooting figured it out pretty quickly.   And pushed their eye doctors into making the glasses for them.    You'll understand why that had to be done the first time you explain what you want to your eyedoctor.

I was running matches back when I got my first pair and worried about wearing the glasses all day.  And the possibility of headaches and such.    Never had a seconds problem...  Of any kind...
  
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Reply #9 - May 17th, 2015 at 4:02pm
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BTW, there is a special lens available that's sold for ARs and M1/M1As by one of the specialty shooting mail order suppliers.   They come with a peep hood that retrofits the original hood.   Only it's not a diopter correction lens that varies in strength to match your eye problem.   

I've used one for awhile in Service Rifle when it was the only shooting I was doing.   It was a hundred or so awhile back.  I'll see if I can find that info.
  
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Re: Old poor eyes and iron sights?
Reply #10 - May 17th, 2015 at 4:04pm
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Keep working at it. May be possible to re train your eyes to shoot good irons again. Your eyes will get stronger and your brain will adjust to the new activity. 

Practice practice practice. 

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Reply #11 - May 18th, 2015 at 2:58pm
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.22-5-40 wrote on May 7th, 2015 at 1:22am:
Have you tried the Merit or Gehmann adjustable appature diopters that fit on regular glasses?  I too could not see open sights...  These really sharpen up those open sights.  I can still shoot either appature or tang sights as well as I ever could.


I've always wanted to try one of those adjustable irises, but they cost a fair bit.

Since I was shooting rifles that would take a Hadley adjustable peep and had tried one, I knew that simply changing the peep hole diameter to suit the amount of light wasn't going to cure my poor eyesight.   The Hadley peep does exactly what those adjustable iris eyeglass attachments do, give you different diameter holes to look through.   BTW, they don't have a diopter in them.  That's a lens that corrects your vision.
  
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