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colo native Oldtimer Offline Posts: 760 Location: Barren Ridge, Va Joined: Dec 27^th, 2007	spotting scope Apr 21^st, 2015 at 9:41pm	Print Post
	Anyone using a Celestron 100mm spotter???


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Seanmp Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 294 Location: Land O Lakes Joined: May 19^th, 2014	Re: spotting scope Reply #1 - Apr 21^st, 2015 at 10:03pm	Print Post
	I don't know about the 100mm but I have a celestron 60mm It is a piece of crap. Focus is so sloppy it's almost useless

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SSShooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2942 Location: Southern NJ Joined: Aug 1^st, 2010	Re: spotting scope Reply #2 - Apr 21^st, 2015 at 10:09pm	Print Post
	Have the 65mm Regal with HD glass and it has been faultless in 10yr of use. Several folks who I shoot with wonder why they paid so much more for a Kowa that is no better. Is fairly heavy, but the weight issue has been addressed in the newest models with the extensive use of Magnesium. Cannot recommend it highly enough. Has both a fine and coarse focus. When I shot with Dan Zimmerman of DZ Arms yesterday he ask what scope it was as he was favorably impressed. They run about $425 on the internet at places like High Point Scientific. Here is a link to the one I use. This newest model weighs about a pound less then mine. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) I looked at the same size Kowa, which is still a bit lighter, but well over twice the price when the eye-piece is included.
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vbull Full Member Offline Posts: 112 Location: Lake George, Champlain region Joined: Sep 19^th, 2004	Re: spotting scope Reply #3 - Apr 22^nd, 2015 at 8:08am	Print Post
	My wife used one for a couple years. Only sold it when a Kowa at a very good price came available. The one we had was comparable to the Kowa in clarity. The Celestron is much heavier then the Kowa. FM


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Deadeye Bly Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1141 Location: Stephens City Joined: Feb 25^th, 2011	Re: spotting scope Reply #4 - Apr 22^nd, 2015 at 8:24am	Print Post
	I travel with Glenn(SSShooter) to silhouette matches in several states. We use his Celestron scope when we travel. It packs nicely and his Ray-Vin stand is more versatile than a tripod though not as steady. I have a Kowa with a Bogen 3051 tripod and it's great for silhouette spotting but it takes up too much space for traveling long distances. After using his Celestron for several years I see no difference in my spotting ability with either scope. Celestron makes a cheaper line of scopes. Be sure to get the Regal line. They are higher quality overall, have better glass and the new ones are lighter than the older ones. When I get an angled eyepiece scope it will be a Celestron Regal.


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digitall423 Oldtimer Offline Posts: 747 Location: Mexico Beach, FL Joined: Aug 5^th, 2005	Re: spotting scope Reply #5 - Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 8:17am	Print Post
	I have a Celestron Ultima 80 ED. It is an excellent scope. Bill


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QuestionableMaynard8130 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4144 Location: Benton Harbor MI Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: spotting scope Reply #6 - Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:13am	Print Post
	How does the #65 you mention do with 22 rf bullet holes in paper @ 200 yards? I'm considering a new spotting scope and selling a couple of my other ones. I have several spotting scopes. my favorite is an elderly Kowa variable that desperately needs to go back for refurbishing, but I bought it used and Don't know if Kowa will still take care of it. I also own a couple newer ones that are nice and bright and clean but not quite up to the Kowa at resolving those pesky 22 holes. the Kowa is a straight through and the Nikon is an angled. since I usually shoot both benchers and offhand from the same bench I have not quite resolved which works best for me. I often find myself having both on the bench post at the same time

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KAF Ex Member	Re: spotting scope Reply #7 - Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 11:14am	Print Post
	I have a Nikon Sky and Earth, I think it is called. Variable power, 80mm objective. The bigger the objective the clearer scopes are and need less light. I had a 60mm but the difference between it and the 80mm was night and day. The big objective is heavy but I do not have to carry it far, it needs a sturdy mount on the bench. But I really like it. I believe it is a straight thru looker but most are reflective. Hard to spend the money on a decent scope but you get what you pay for. Check to see IF Kowa will refurbish your scope at a decent price, IF buying new I'd buy Nikon again, mine compares to Kowa in side by side tests. And I found 22 cal holes at 200 yds when a Kowa wouldn't. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)
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QuestionableMaynard8130 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4144 Location: Benton Harbor MI Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: spotting scope Reply #8 - Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 12:41pm	Print Post
	Keith thanks for the reminder, I just emailed Kowa, we'll see what they have to say. I have an 80mm Nikon as a backup but it has an angled eyepiece and the attachment foot is cast in place which makes it a bit awkward off the bench I have to put it so low that it interferes with adjusting the rest. the straight through Kowa mounts higher on the bench clamp post and I can just lean forward and look through it and still have plenty of clearance underneath.

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majorfs45 Full Member Offline Posts: 142 Location: Stillwater, OK Joined: Aug 10^th, 2008	Re: spotting scope Reply #9 - Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 6:14pm	Print Post
	Sometimes we have to remember what we are wanting out of a scope. John mention BPCR, in that sport, we are wanting a scope to see the target plus see the mirage. The Kowa is one of those scopes that does allow you to read the mirage. It is a great scope. (At Raton, more than half the spotting scopes used there are Kowa. There is a reason for that.) Not wanting so much to see holes at 200 yards. I know that sounds a little funny. You would think the most clear would be the best in seeing mirage. Doesn't always holds true. As with this sport. It is nice to be able to see holes in paper targets at 200 yards. Not so much the mirage. Though that is good to see to make changes for wind. I agree with the gentleman that you usually get what you pay for. And usually you will notice if it is another brand scope, they use the Kowa as the scope they compare it to. Again, there is a reason for that. It is of course a great scope.


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.22Hepburn Oldtimer Offline Posts: 844 Location: Pennsylvania Joined: Feb 18^th, 2008	Re: spotting scope Reply #10 - Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 6:22pm	Print Post
	What about that monster 100mm Unertl?


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Cat_Whisperer Frequent Elocutionist Offline No 1, 9.3x74R Posts: 3984 Location: Mountains of Virginia Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: spotting scope Reply #11 - Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 8:45pm	Print Post
	Quote: I have a Nikon Sky and Earth, I think it is called. Variable power, 80mm objective. The bigger the objective the clearer scopes are and need less light. I had a 60mm but the difference between it and the 80mm was night and day. The big objective is heavy but I do not have to carry it far, it needs a sturdy mount on the bench. But I really like it. I believe it is a straight thru looker but most are reflective. Hard to spend the money on a decent scope but you get what you pay for. Check to see IF Kowa will refurbish your scope at a decent price, IF buying new I'd buy Nikon again, mine compares to Kowa in side by side tests. And I found 22 cal holes at 200 yds when a Kowa wouldn't. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) Good scope!

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ssdave Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2134 Location: Eastern Oregon Joined: Apr 16^th, 2004	Re: spotting scope Reply #12 - Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:07pm	Print Post
	.22Hepburn wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 6:22pm: What about that monster 100mm Unertl? If there were any of them around for people to look through, they would be the holy grail to compare to. Unfortunately, not many around. dave


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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3750 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Re: spotting scope Reply #13 - Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:33pm	Print Post
	There was one set up in Spokane last year. Amazing scope. Little large to fit in m range box like my B&L Spacemaster. I have compared mine to all but the bigger Kowas and it holds up well. I must have a good specimen. I picked up a Konus and could not return it fast enough. I have an Unertl 24x63 I got at a good price on ebay because it had cosmetic exterior issues and no rear eyepiece cap. It is very sharp, but not significantly better than my B&L. With the 20-60x B&L eyepiece I can use 60x to pick out .22 holes at 200 with no problems. Jack


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QuestionableMaynard8130 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4144 Location: Benton Harbor MI Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: spotting scope Reply #14 - Apr 23^rd, 2015 at 10:37pm	Print Post
	"If there were any of them around for people to look through, they would be the holy grail to compare to" I think thats the one called a "Team scope" I believe they were designed to be used by team coaches for spotting behind the firing line. they are BIG---practically need to have a small gun carriage to move them around. a big heavy sturdy tripod is required I know a couple folk who have them but seldom bring them to the ASSRA range. I suspect its just massive overkill----though I'd like to see one at the 22 matches out of curiosity to see how they do @ 200 yards. Then too I think they are almost too big to fit between the benches and I can't even imagine how you'd rig a bench stand for one I suspect they'd really shine at the long range BPCR and similar matches where a shooter and a spotter work as a team

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