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Reply #15 - Apr 23rd, 2015 at 11:36pm
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This could work!

  

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Reply #16 - Apr 24th, 2015 at 2:21am
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I take a peek through everything that presents an opportunity. I haven't seen anything  that is an improvement over my 27LER Kowa 88 mm.
  

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Reply #17 - Apr 24th, 2015 at 2:40am
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QuestionableMaynard8130 wrote on Apr 23rd, 2015 at 10:13am:
How does the #65 you mention do with 22 rf bullet holes in paper @ 200 yards?  I'm considering a new spotting scope and selling a couple of my other ones.
I have several spotting scopes.  my favorite is an elderly Kowa variable that desperately needs to go back for refurbishing, but I bought it used and Don't know if Kowa will still take care of it.  
I also own a couple newer ones that are nice and bright and clean but not quite up to the Kowa at resolving those pesky 22 holes.
the Kowa is a straight through and the Nikon is an angled.  since I usually shoot both benchers and offhand from the same bench I have not quite resolved which works best for me.  I often find myself having both on the bench post at the same time

I have no problem spotting .22cal holes at 200yd with my 65mm Celestron, but I also have good eye-sight. As mentioned, comparing apples to apples, a larger scope will have the advantage of better light gathering. Celestron does offer the same scope in 80mm for about $600. Once you get to the better quality scopes like the Celestron Regal, Kowa or better Nikons, etc., what you can resolve has more to do with the "seeing" conditions than with the scopes. Our first day out this season we could resolve 40cal holes on paper at 600yd with both my Celestron and a Kowa 883 due to good 'seeing' conditions.
  

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Reply #18 - Apr 24th, 2015 at 11:24am
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The gentleman is correct!  The large scope is a Unertl  100mm "Team" Spotting Scope.  The stand is quite unique.  I think it could go up to about 8 ft if necessary, lol.  I think it was designed to be used by a team coach sitting like in a life guard chair, so he could look out over the shooters and see the all targets of his shooters on the line.  The clarity is unmatched.   I was amazed looking out at the ram line (500meters) at Raton, that the turkey line (385 Meters) was as clear as a bell also.  I could have spotted for both shooters without any problem.  The weight of the stand, the cradle and the scope is 13 pds.  The whole rig is actually lighter than a lot of the steel tripods used out at Raton with smaller scope on them.  If you think about it, that is just a pound over what BPCR rifle can weigh, so not bad. They came originally with 3 set eye pieces.  15X, 24X and 32X.  The 24X is the one I use most of the time.  Sometimes put the 32X for the Ram line.  They came in their own wooden box that would hold the scope, stand, cradle and eye pieces.  I remember last year putting the 32X in and looking at a mountain behind the Silhouette range at Raton.  I could see several towers, a building and a truck on the top of the mountain I had never seen before, lol.  Not sure what year they quit making this scope, but probably safe to say 30 years plus.  If you have a chance, look through one!  I am going to add a link to Dewy Greiner's website for Classic Unertl Scopes that tells the details should anyone wish to know more.
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Reply #19 - Apr 24th, 2015 at 11:31am
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Reply #20 - Apr 24th, 2015 at 12:20pm
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thanks for the info and the Link.    I also like the Jeep mount for the scope

FWIW:  I just contacted KOWA USA about my old TSN-2--77 scope. 
Kowa has a "limited Lifetime" warranty for manufacturing defects only.

I will be sending mine in for "evaluation" later today.  They will get back to me with a report on any problems and a cost for whatever it takes.  I was told that  there are no replacement parts for missing lens caps, eyepiece caps, etc---that scope has not been made for over 20 years.  I think it basically just needs a cleaning.
  

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Reply #21 - Apr 24th, 2015 at 4:01pm
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Questionable: I have an older TS-1 77mm KOWA that had issues. It just did not seem to focus well.

Last year, I sent it off to KOWA. They internally cleaned it, adjusted/repaired the focusing, and adjusted the lenses. Cost  about US$125.00 including shipping. It is as good as new.  This is the only work the scope required after almost 25 years of service
  

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Reply #22 - Apr 25th, 2015 at 1:19am
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Bigger objectives are always brighter, but not necessarily clearer. Resolving power is limited by the accuracy of the objective lens' curvature, and the bigger it is, the harder it is to get it right.  Sometimes you can dramatically improve the clarity of a cheap scope with a poor objective by blocking off part of the aperture.  My current bench scope is an old B&L reflector that I've blocked half the aperture.  Its' mirror has warped over the 20 years or so that I've had it.  With refractors, it's often the rim that's off, so a disk with a central hole of, say, 50% of the area will do wonders.  Try it.
  

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Reply #23 - Apr 28th, 2015 at 10:42am
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Celestron Regal M2, 80 ED is a fantastic scope.
Won't find it anywhere cheaper than these folks--
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