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Re: Carbon fouling
Reply #30 - Apr 11th, 2015 at 11:37pm
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frnkeore wrote on Apr 11th, 2015 at 8:57pm:
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Have you found ANYTHING that delays or lessons the carbon build up, like primers or lube or?

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Is it related to the type of lube used?
  

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Re: Carbon fouling
Reply #31 - Apr 12th, 2015 at 7:24am
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frnkeore wrote on Apr 11th, 2015 at 8:57pm:
RB,
Have you found ANYTHING that delays or lessons the carbon build up, like primers or lube or?

Frank
 
I have not found anything that fixes the carbon problem other than going to a different powder or even a different lot of powder. When I first encountered the problem I thought that lube was causing the problem as it was very hot and I thought that the lube was breaking down. After testing a lot of different lubes and primers I think that it is just a powder problem if anything more pressure seems to help maybe a better burn? But thinking about that even the modern High Power and Benchrest guys have to deal with it too. I just check often and when I find some clean it out any of the better bore cleaners or Ed's Red along with JB Bore paste works for me.

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Re: Carbon fouling
Reply #32 - Apr 19th, 2015 at 6:15pm
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I experienced carbon fouling in a rifle and pistol and found that Bore Tech Inc carbon remover did a very good job. Soaked overnight for bad build ups and a good brushing did the job.
  
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Re: Carbon fouling
Reply #33 - Apr 19th, 2015 at 6:52pm
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A bore scope quickly indicated carbon builds up in all rifles with any powder and that most cleaning solvents will not touch the carbon.

Most solvents work fine on eliminating fouling, lead and copper accumulations but do not touch the carbon.

JB Bore paste and some solvents specifically designed to remove carbon are the only way to remove it.

Brushes will not remove the carbon build up.
  
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Reply #34 - Apr 19th, 2015 at 8:19pm
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The only way to remove anything, is to be able to wet the surface beneath it. I use Xylene or Xylene/Tolulene. I haven't found anything it won't take out.

My problem is keeping it from building up during a relay. You don't have time to clean, then foul a barrel to get back on the record target  Sad

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Reply #35 - Apr 19th, 2015 at 8:20pm
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I have a plunger that was used for primer tests that has substantial carbon build up and it is as hard as glass. If you let it build up to this point there is no getting it off short of emory, a file or turning it off. Carbon build up needs to be taken seriously and it doesn't matter if it is a by product from the primers or the ones powder of choice it will simply always be there as long as those two componets continue to be used and I totally agree with Daves comments based on my personnel experiance. I had a local AR gunsmith tell me that Kano Laboratories ( Penephite ) is the best he has found to remove carbon build up. It is not cheap and all though I have used it I believe that JB is as good or better. What I really don't care about it is its an Aerosol that also contians Graphite and it is quite messy trying to get it onto a patch but it would be beneficial for his use on disassembled AR parts.
  

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Re: Carbon fouling
Reply #36 - Apr 19th, 2015 at 8:42pm
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Frank not doubting that your methods won't work but I believe one can get a barrel to clean. One wants to remove the carbon fouling but not the natural seasoning of the barrel as it is extremely beneficial to accuracy. I purposely over cleaned a bore once and it took 200 + bullets down the bore to get it back to shooting up to par again. No need for any harsh chemicals and Xylene is harsh when JB has proven to do the work just fine without removing that precious seasoning.

If anyone plans on trying Xylene be extremely careful as it burnt the hell out my skin and the vapors are not something one wants to be breathing for very long.

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Reply #37 - Apr 20th, 2015 at 7:05am
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Seafoam removes carbon easily from your chamber/throat.

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Re: Carbon fouling
Reply #38 - Apr 20th, 2015 at 4:53pm
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I picked up two spray cans of the SeaFoam motor treatment at O'Reillys for $16. It was 2 for $16 or $12.50 for 1.  Going to try it on my 45-90 first to see if it makes any difference.  i suppose I could try it on my Jeep as well.  

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