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25 stevens rimfire
Apr 6th, 2015 at 8:40pm
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any one have a formula for making 25 stevens rimfie.i have two tip ups.one in 25 the other in 32 rimfires.i just got done making 32 short rimfire out of 32 short colt.great idea so i thought some one should of tryed the same idea with 25 rimfire.some one said there is a article in the june 2010 single shot exchange about making 25 rimfire but i cant find that copy any where.any ideas would be great.
  
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Re: 25 stevens rimfire
Reply #1 - Apr 7th, 2015 at 11:55am
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Are you wanting to keep it rimfire?  If you choose centerfire, I've heard of using 22 hornet cases with the bases reduced, and shortened.  If you want to keep it rimfire, there is a technique using Hornet cases with the bottom bored off center to allow the use of nailgun cartridges to get the fire started.  Smiley
  

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Reply #2 - Apr 7th, 2015 at 3:40pm
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   With the smaller cases, no need to "off-center" the 22RF priming cases, as most RF firing pins have enough reach to fire 22's centered in 32 cases.    There is a lot of info floating around out there about doing this, tho it can be challenging to actually DO.   (experience)

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Reply #3 - Apr 7th, 2015 at 5:28pm
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Last time I checked, the folks at the SSE still had back copies of the June 2010 issue available. See "Feeding the .25 Stevens Rimfire" for the details. Essentially, make a .25 Stevens shell to hold a .22 RF case to use as a primer. Light loads and 65 gr. cast bullets without the gas check work quite well. I believe that I started with a .22 Hornet case, but I'd have to look at the article again to check what I wrote. As we get older, we get better at forgetting.
  
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Reply #4 - Apr 7th, 2015 at 6:04pm
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Chev. William has a whole series of posts on the 25 Stevens RF
  
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Reply #5 - Apr 7th, 2015 at 6:05pm
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Reply #6 - Apr 7th, 2015 at 6:13pm
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Wouldn't it be nice if some ammo maker made another run of .25 rimfire? I've got a old Ballard #3 that somebody sent to Stevens and had rebored and chambered for the .25 rimfire, and I'd love more ammo! I have 4 boxes of Cannuck, and on special occasions I shoot some. It's extremely accurate, and would love to shoot it more, but don't want too fuss with adapters.
  

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Reply #7 - Apr 7th, 2015 at 8:44pm
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I've seen these rimfire resurections talked about here and other places as well. Something nobody has mentioned, that I've seen, is whether these leak gas from the hole where the .22 "primer" is located? It seems that unless it's so dang tight that the rimfire's primer would go off or the case crush, that the fit would assume the nature of a worn primer pocket in a normal case. Would someone please explain what I must be missing on these conversions?  Pat
  
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Reply #8 - Apr 8th, 2015 at 8:44am
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For rimfire, find some .27 caliber Remington loads for their power hammer.
They fit in my .25rf Ballard, fire, and extract.
Use them as is with a proper sized lead bullet (no additional powder).
Or, remove the powder and use it as a primer for your favorite powder/bullet combo.
I have used them and they work for me, your mileage may vary.

  

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Re: 25 stevens rimfire
Reply #9 - Apr 8th, 2015 at 11:06am
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calledflyer wrote on Apr 7th, 2015 at 8:44pm:
I've seen these rimfire resurections talked about here and other places as well. Something nobody has mentioned, that I've seen, is whether these leak gas from the hole where the .22 "primer" is located? It seems that unless it's so dang tight that the rimfire's primer would go off or the case crush, that the fit would assume the nature of a worn primer pocket in a normal case. Would someone please explain what I must be missing on these conversions?  Pat


I've tried them for .44 rf, .38 rf, and .32 rf. and not had any leakage with any of them. The rim of the .22 blank fits into a recess cut into the turned cases on the ones I got, so when chambered, and the breech closed, it creates a good seal. I'm uncertain how one in .25 works, as I haven't seen an adapter for that caliber.
The issue that made me give up on all the others was removing the blank from the adapter case after firing. They open up, and expand inside the adapter, and it requires punching them out, which can sometimes be a chore. Then push in a new blank, pour a charge, and seat a new projectile. Just wasn't much fun for me, and I tossed them in a drawer.
  

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Reply #10 - Apr 8th, 2015 at 11:53am
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Thanks, Marlinguy, I appreciate the info on that. I was curious, since I know of a nice, nice little rolling block that is in .32rf, and thought I'd see about shooting it a little, if it can be got reasonably.
I had guessed that the .22 might be swollen by firing, and need to be punched  out. Well, there I go- somehow or other I guess my mind had leaped to where I would be the possessor of about fifty of those adapters! What was I thinking, since I don't even have a lathe to make one, let alone a whole bunch!  Pat
  
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Re: 25 stevens rimfire
Reply #11 - Apr 8th, 2015 at 8:38pm
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calledflyer wrote on Apr 8th, 2015 at 11:53am:
Thanks, Marlinguy, I appreciate the info on that. I was curious, since I know of a nice, nice little rolling block that is in .32rf, and thought I'd see about shooting it a little, if it can be got reasonably.
I had guessed that the .22 might be swollen by firing, and need to be punched  out. Well, there I go- somehow or other I guess my mind had leaped to where I would be the possessor of about fifty of those adapters! What was I thinking, since I don't even have a lathe to make one, let alone a whole bunch!  Pat


No need to make them, as Dixie Gun Works sells them. I believe they sold them in sets of three, along with a can of blanks, and a couple tools to punch them out. Used be around $5., but looks like they're $6.50 now, and I don't see any blanks with them.
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Re: 25 stevens rimfire
Reply #12 - Apr 8th, 2015 at 8:53pm
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I use a .22 match chamber reamer to cut the hole for the .22 case. I then give the case a little squeeze with needle nose pliers so it bulges a little at the base, which keeps the case in the adapted shell. Upon ignition, the .22 case expands to fit the reamed hole and can be pushed out with a suitable pin punch - no leakage noted. The tedious part is pulling apart the .22 ammo. The rest is like normal reloading once the adapted cases are made. Pressures are low so the adapted cases last a long time.
  
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Re: 25 stevens rimfire
Reply #13 - Apr 8th, 2015 at 8:56pm
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I have also used the .27 caliber nail gun loads. Worked fine for plinking. I need to take some more time and try them is different rifles. I have a few with good bores including a really nice 418 Stevens. I picked up a good supply of .27 nail gun loads at the local flea market a while back
  
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Reply #14 - Apr 8th, 2015 at 9:39pm
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any one have a formula for making 25 stevens rimfire

Here's my approach for a 25 Stevens Favorite:
* 22 Hornet reformed to 25 Hornet CH4D Die
* Rem 7 1/2 SR BR
* 7 -8 or 9gr BP - FFg
* 5gr 2400
* Lyman 257420 - 72gr
They drop right in the chamber and are fun to shoot using a bushed firing pin
  
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