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Apr 1st, 2015 at 6:50am
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I own a Winchester model 1885 chambered for the "long" cartridge case and was given some cartridges loaded on the "short" case.
I'd like to just go ahead and shoot them as is without pulling bullets and eloading into the longer cases.
What's your opinion of my doing this?
  
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Reply #1 - Apr 1st, 2015 at 7:08am
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No problem at all. Most 38-55 factory cases are the short variety these days, so if you shoot factory, that's what you're pulling the trigger on.
I assume your 1885 is older, so you shouldn't be hotrodding it anyway. Either way, I always shoot my rifles at the pressure levels their cartridges were designed for (or reduced for more modern cartridges).
  
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Reply #2 - Apr 1st, 2015 at 7:34am
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I have a CPA with the longer chamber and shoot Winchester cases in it, and they are of the short variety. Only problems I have had is a little leading. I wouldn't worry about shooting those loads as long as they are not loaded to extreme velocity.
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Reply #3 - Apr 1st, 2015 at 8:37am
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Thanks, fellas-
A'shooting I will go!
  
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Reply #4 - Apr 1st, 2015 at 9:54am
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I own a Winchester model 1885 chambered for the "long" cartridge case and was given some cartridges loaded on the "short" case.


Best practices dictate that one should never shoot someone else's reloaded ammunition, .  .  .  unless and until, you are given and receive accurate and reliable information from the reloader as to what propellant and in what quantity it was used in the reloading process.

The 38-55 case is a black powder cartridge from the 19th century.  Your Winchester was manufactured 130 years ago.

Might I suggest that you use your press with the 38-55 shell holder installed and no die. Then run the case up, grasp the bullet in locking pliers (vise-grips) then lower the cartridge, thereby extracting the bullet.   

Next, empty the powder charge into your scale pan, making sure you have captured the entire contents.  Weight it, and most importantly, identify which propellant it is.

If you are not 100 % certain as to what powder was used, without asking or relying on the reloader, then proceed to dis-assemble the entirety of the donated 38-55 cartridges.

Safety always comes before convenience.
  
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Reply #5 - Apr 1st, 2015 at 10:02am
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What's your opinion of my doing this?


Just presented it above, not as to the length of the 38-55 cases, as others pretty much covered that aspect of your question.

I realize you didn't ask about what and how the cases in question were loaded, so consider my answer a safety bonus which may be worth considering.
  
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Reply #6 - Apr 1st, 2015 at 10:06am
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I agree with the Dr. Better safe than sorry.
  
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Reply #7 - Apr 1st, 2015 at 4:29pm
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Agreed!

I keep a 30-06 case on my workbench as a reminder of the nice old M1 Garand that blew up in my hands shooting someone else's hand loads. When given ammo that is not factory loaded I pull them down and reuse the components.

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Reply #8 - Apr 1st, 2015 at 4:52pm
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These cartridges were given to me by a close friend and an accomplished reloader who provided me with the data he used to load the cartridges.
I have shot them in my near-hundred year old 1894 Winchester over a chronograph with average velocities of 1650 fps with no pressure signs.
  
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Reply #9 - Apr 1st, 2015 at 9:20pm
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The advise to not use reloads of unknown origin are valid. I have a friend who reloads for me who I trust more than I trust myself. I am on the verge of starting to do my own reloading and believe me when I say that I am much more concerned about the reloading I will be doing myself than I am about the reloads my friend does. I agree that when in doubt I would not shoot someone else's reloads either.
  
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