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powderman Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 335 Location: British Columbia Joined: Feb 26^th, 2005	Dept. of Homeland Security and antique firearms Mar 29^th, 2015 at 2:13pm	Print Post
	The insanity continues. I just received this message: I just wanted to let you know, Homeland Security has changed the laws with regard to shipping firearms (to include antiques) internationally. From this point forward, any firearms purchases (modern or antique) made through Amoskeag Auction will need to be shipped to a licensed exporter within the U.S. for transfer. Does this just apply to a business? Regards, Powderman


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Seanmp Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 294 Location: Land O Lakes Joined: May 19^th, 2014	Re: Dept. of Homeland Security and antique firearms Reply #1 - Mar 29^th, 2015 at 6:24pm	Print Post
	You just recieved a pat on the head and got told to go play by big brother. No it doesnt just apply to businesses unfortunately. The upshot is you need to place an application for export with a non refundable fee of about $1700. Whether the answer is yes, no or no answer at all this money will not be returned. From there the firearm is transferred from an FFL exporter to and acceptable importer. Your best bet it to find an importer on the canadian side. They will have a list of companies they deal with routinely and will file the paperwork. One of the Canadian importers is also a licensed FFL exporter. This is Prophet River. The charge a bit more but at least its all being juggled by the same people.

	Sean
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powderman Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 335 Location: British Columbia Joined: Feb 26^th, 2005	Re: Dept. of Homeland Security and antique firearms Reply #2 - Mar 30^th, 2015 at 12:32pm	Print Post
	Here is a comment from canadiangunnutz .com website on this issue: The USA Customs and state dept told me that all antique firearms exported that they still need to be filed with the AES ie Automated export system . even tho ITAR 123 exempts antique firearms you need to be a USA citizen to file in the AES for that exemption. Just read Itar 123 its still exempts antiques but the HLS is saying you still must file in aes for the exemption is my understanding. I get all my antiques thru a dealler FFL who can ship export legaly as far as i know antiques are still exempt but AES is still in effect always has been they just never enforeced it before. So anything antique not filed in the AES for exemption can be seized even tho there exempt you must file in the AES to get the exemption. Auction houses are known for prefering to use licenced exporters but i always use a FFL licenced to export anyway. I think its one of them things thats not really enforeced but they can at anytime if its not done right. I think auction houses just dont want the risk and or headache. Does anybody know how to go about getting the Automated Export System Exemption for a US citizen? Regards, Powderman


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