Yep.
United, there's a fighting chance... Divided, you can pretty much kiss it all goodbye.

Quote:

So I don't have to do it again when I'm 86.   

Sean you are mistaken with respect to the AR-15 in Canada.  They are available but are classified as restricted, so anyone with an RPAL can buy one.  They are not my cup of tea, but I'm with Boats on this one.

Respectfully,

Chris.

Seanup, you hit that on the nose!

Don't get me wrong gentlemen I have no issues with the ownership of AR's or any Black Weapons. Ya admittedly not my cup of tea but if thats the look your into then good on ya.

Yes my issue is the spray and pray crowd. And yes I can't support that kind of behavior when it means that my buddy Chris or Dave or Bob next door can't get a box of shells to go hunting with. 
Or better yet. 
WHEN OUR RCMP ARE HAVING DIFFICULTY OBTAINING 9MM to train with. Trust me I have first hand knowledge. Does anyone realize this? Our law enforcement agencies are having as much difficulties as we are in obtaining practice ammunition.

Now how do you feel about Bubba.

Sorry gents you may feel this is strictly an American issue but unfortunately its not. Over the years we have accepted benevolent words and kindly pats on the head with promises of "Don't worry we'll look after you" as our ability to manufacture munitions went south a piece at a time. It wasn't that long ago that the last pieces of domestic cartridge tooling left Valcartier for the southern US to boost PMC's production.

Chris...
Yup your right man

I have a long history working and living in Australia. Like the country very much plan to go back again, and was living in Sydney when the firearms laws changed.  I can assure you my experience as related was accurate. My firearms license was revoked along with all others in the country and re-issued very limited as dictated by the local police. I had two rifles at the time Rimfire and Centerfire, Silhouette bolt guns. Re-issued license only allowed Rimfire as my local club's range was rimfire only.  CF Silhouette I shot as a guest at a club out of state did not belong to a club with a CF range.  Took my  CF rifle back to the US had I not would have had to turn it in, paid for it yes, still confiscated and destroyed. No appeal. It is up to the local authorities, how many, what kind, how you use it, everything depending on the local Police

But don't take my word for it read the Wiki page on Australian gun laws and see if you want that kind of action and restriction in the USA. Political system is different there, much more power in the hands of the executive.  Same thing our president is trying to do here. Actions on his own not consulting with the congress. Exactly what he wants to do with .223 ammunition

(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)

All the talk aside my distinct impression having been in Australia as a firearms license holder when it happened is fractured gun owner organizations were not effective in protecting law abiding citizens firearms ownership.

The only protection we have in America is a united front led by the NRA. Like the NRA or not we don't have any other options.


Boats