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Look very carefully at the barrel photos.
I see what appears to be a Lawrence rear sight ?
Also, there's some modern looking stamps on the LH side.
Does it say 40 or 45 CAL ? or just  AL ???? hard to make it out.
The action looks like early Sporter, as does the buttstock and plate.
Maybe it's been rebarreled with a Sharps barrel ????
Price isn't bad, if it's all original or at least "period".

Could well be a parts gun.
But the hammer and b.b. DO look Sporter in profile; and keep in mind some of the early Sporters used milsurp frames.
If so, the tang patents shouldn't go past 1866.

BP wrote on Feb 15^th, 2015 at 1:49pm:

Correct sir.
Speaking of which, sure wish somebody was making those single set parts. Especially the main spring.
Rodney Storie, where are you ?????

Yes, I bought some of Storie's extractors.
They are very close in profile, so save a lot of time.

I know he was soliciting parts to make; but I don't have a single set trigger spring; only the trigger and sear.

Tom,
Sorry, I didn't think to save any info on this gun.
I can tell you this much: It was for sale at a Cabelas in Georgia.
So if you're from down that way, maybe it was yours.
I can also tell you that it was supposed to be chambered in 45-70; and one peculiar feature of the barrel was that there appeared to be the word or intials- CAL or CA on the LH side of the barrel just ahead of the receiver.There may have been more to the markings, but the photos didn't show up very well.
It definitely was not a period Remington marking; resembling more like modern individual hand stamps.
This gun also had what appeared to be a Sharps type Lawrence patent rear sight.
Sound familiar ????

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Not all Remington rifles had tang rollstamps. There were thousands of early guns built without tang markings. I've got several sporting Rollers without tang rollstamps.

Yes, I was replying to your statement about tang patents. All my sporters have patent stamps on the side, like other sporting models of Rem. of that period.

I have had quite a few communications with the fellow that bought this rifle; and to the best of my knowledge, there are NO Remington markings,nor any other markings on the barrel that would hint at it's source of manufacture.
And the number "22" is not present on any other part.
As has been stated earlier, what I have been able to ascertain is that the action is of military type, with the last patent date of 1874 on the tang.
It does have the sporting style hammer and breechblock.
The buttstock and buttplate have matching numbers, but there are no serial numbers on the receiver, except for the assembly numbers on the sides of the tangs; which have nothing to do with the numbers on the wood or buttplate.
I do not know whether the forearm is number matched to the buttstock.
The new owner had this gun to a local gunsmith for closer examination, and came to the conclusion that it was most likely assembled from parts years ago, and is not a factory job.An early gunsmith conversion ? maybe.

You are correct about the info in Marcot's book; but there is more to it than that.
The early round top receivers of military type ALSO had the longer lower tangs and tang patent dates that stopped at approximately 1866.
As far as I know,there is only one gun in Marcot's book that used an 1874 style receiver, which would have had equal length tangs.
Only true commercial rolling blocks carried the extra length lower tangs through the production run.
Of course there are always exceptions. 
But keep in mind, there's been literally thousands of sporting rolling blocks made and hundreds of thousands of military rolling blocks made. Spare parts and parts guns have not always been so scarce as they are today. A hobbyist 50-60 years ago could have easily accumulated a collection of spares with which to build a shooter in his favorite caliber.