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Schuetzen Beer?
Feb 13th, 2015 at 7:35pm
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Does anyone know what style of beer was consumed during the peak of the US Schuetzen period?  I'm thinking of brewing something to match the style.   

Maybe Biggi can comment on the favorite Schuetzen  bier in Bavaria?   

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Reply #1 - Feb 13th, 2015 at 10:37pm
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They were good Germans, the style of beer did not matter  Grin 
  
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bnice wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 10:37pm:
They were good Germans, the style of beer did not matter    


Oh, yes it did.   Can you imagine any proper German drinking Bud Lite?   Shocked
  

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As long as its served by this young lady it really doesn't matter Smiley

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For that matter, my limited German travels taught me quickly that a German generally sneers at "flaschbier", which is anything in bottles.  Having been fed fresh beer in a few German pubs, I agree with them.  There's nothing to touch beer that's never seen a bottle or an aluminum keg.  And from what I've read, fresh beer is what they had at the old Schuetzenfest gatherings.

  

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Reply #6 - Feb 14th, 2015 at 6:32am
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Can just say something about Beer in Munich in the old days.

There were a lot of good breweries back then, big breweries like Hofbräu, Löwenbräu, Spaten, Hacker-Pschorr, Paulaner, and for sure the famous Augustiner beer. The Augustiner brewery is nearly 700 years old. A lot of the old breweries were founded by monks in the monasteries.

These were the big Munich breweries back then:

• Hackerbräu
• Löwenbräu
• Paulaner-Salvator
• Thomasbräu
• Augustiner
• Wagnerbräu
• Pschorr
• Spaten-Franziskaner
• Schneider-Weizenbier

There were a lot of small breweries too in and around Munich, but nowadays just the big breweries still exist. The big ones bought the smaller ones more than 100 years ago. Hacker and Pschorr merged and some more big breweries too.

In Munich, the breweries had always special seasonal beer, like "Mai-Bock" in May and winterbeer and for sure the Octoberfest-Beer.

But in the old days, the shooters drank also a lot of wine, because there are wineyards in northern Bavaria, thats Frankonia.  On a schützenfest there was also a wine tent and the wine booths, were one could buy a drink.

Some brewery owners were shooters too or they were related to shooters like the famous Pschorr family. They donated always nice material prizes for the big matches. The Thomas brewery donated nice silver goblets for the crossbow matches at the Octoberfest.

Well, the Bavarian shooters in Munich drank beer from Munich breweries, because just breweries from Munich got the selling concession for the big events.

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Reply #7 - Feb 14th, 2015 at 9:52am
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In the US, prior to Prohibition (which would cover the schuetzen-era) most of the beers were brewed locally in small production commercial breweries and delivered fresh in kegs and barrels to the point of consumption. The beers available probably pretty much reflected the local ethno-regional population's traditions.
And one has to remember that "beers" were not just a German tradition. Many other emigrant ethnic groups had a beer tradition. Here in my area (the South Bend IN metro area) there were significant, Belgian, Polish, Hungarian etc populations who had their own beer traditions, and in the pre-prohibition era--their own small breweries.
In larger major cities of course sheer economics and management skills allowed some breweries to expand and come to dominate their local-regional markets. However distribution was governed by shelf-life and distribution nets and technology.

Most of them folded during Prohibition and when the amendment was repealed usually only the larger ones were able to reenter the market.  Also the "weaker" low alcohol/low carbohydrate beers which were permitted under Prohib. regs influenced American taste for beer.  I have read that the commercial giant beer makers deliberately reintroduced a "lower octane" to the legal market as a way of making a lower-production cost/higher profit brew.  they were counting on a thirsty market which would overlook the weakness of the "new-brew" in their joy to be able to get any legal brew.   and of course they would buy and consume more of the "less-filling" stuff. 
The weaker canned/bottled/ preserved beers produced under gvmt. contract for domestic and overseas GI consumption also had a huge impact on our current American beer taste and drinking habits

I'm not sure when bottled or canned beer with preservation processes committed on it entered the market. but I imagine it was mostly in the post-schuetzen era.
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Reply #8 - Feb 14th, 2015 at 10:00am
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My father and uncle brewed their own beer at home. Raised in a German town in central Wa. State, and he never spoke English until he was about 12 years old. The beer they made was a fairly heavy wheat beer, and never clear. I remember them actually pouring their beer in glasses, and watching for the sediment on the bottom of the bottle, and stopping before it entered the glass. Usually 1/4" or so left in every bottle they poured. They also never drank a cold beer that I ever saw. My father kept his beer in the basement, and if anyone ever offered him a beer from the refrigerator, he would pour it in his glass and let it stand for 20-30 minutes before taking the first sip. He said cold ruined the flavor of good beer, and only cheap beers were refrigerated.
  

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Reply #9 - Feb 14th, 2015 at 10:11am
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My German buddy, Helmut Korlach, says, "the besta beer is a friee beer".    jim
  
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Reply #10 - Feb 14th, 2015 at 11:18am
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This one is quite excellent.

König Ludwig Weiss (Royal Bavarian Hefe-Weizen) - Kaltenberg International / König Ludwig International GmbH & Co.KG

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gunlaker wrote on Feb 14th, 2015 at 11:18am:
This one is quite excellent.

König Ludwig Weiss (Royal Bavarian Hefe-Weizen) - Kaltenberg International / König Ludwig International GmbH & Co.KG

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Yes Chris, indeed its one of the best beers here. We have it in our shooting house restaurant - and for sure for the shooters at the range too. That's Bavaria!
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The owner of the brewery is His Royal Highness Prince Luitpold of Bavaria. So its a royal Bavarian beer! Wink
Prince Luitpold is member of our royal shooting society.

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I don't think the schuetzen era drinkers would drink the domestic beers of today, they would probably rather have a drink of water than a can of Bud-lite of Miller-lite.   Ledball
  
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Reply #13 - Feb 14th, 2015 at 6:00pm
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feuerbixler wrote on Feb 14th, 2015 at 11:25am:

gunlaker wrote on Feb 14th, 2015 at 11:18am:
This one is quite excellent.

König Ludwig Weiss (Royal Bavarian Hefe-Weizen) - Kaltenberg International / König Ludwig International GmbH & Co.KG

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Yes Chris, indeed its one of the best beers here. We have it in our shooting house restaurant - and for sure for the shooters at the range too. That's Bavaria!
Grin

The owner of the brewery is His Royal Highness Prince Luitpold of Bavaria. So its a royal Bavarian beer! Wink
Prince Luitpold is member of our royal shooting society.

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The taste for it comes naturally to me.  My father was born near Zeitlarn which I think it not too far from there.  I have not been there yet but will one day.  I have been to see a number of my relatives who live in the town where the brothers Grimm came from.  My mother is from the other side of the country.

I like German beer Smiley

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Reply #14 - Feb 14th, 2015 at 6:12pm
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uscra112 wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 10:43pm:
bnice wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 10:37pm:
They were good Germans, the style of beer did not matter   


Oh, yes it did.   Can you imagine any proper German drinking Bud Lite?   Shocked

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