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wader4 Junior Member Offline Posts: 52 Location: Eau Claire WI Joined: Sep 3^rd, 2013	25-20 WCF Load help needed! Jan 17^th, 2015 at 5:35pm	Print Post
	I got a curve ball thrown at me this week. CPA sent me my new barrel and it is a 25-20 wcf and not a 25-20 single shot. We got our info crossed somewhere. Called Gail and she told me to shoot it and maybe I will be happy with it. I need some load suggestions. I'm going to be shooting a Hoch 105 grain bullet, breach seated. I have 4227,No 9, and Ramshot Enforcer for powders on hand. Wade


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: 25-20 WCF Load help needed! Reply #1 - Jan 17^th, 2015 at 5:53pm	Print Post
	I believe you mean 25WCF if so Jerry_H on this site would be your best go to person. What he has accomplished with his 25 WCF in competition ( 4-200yd. 250's ) currently sets him apart from all others.
	« Last Edit: Jan 17^th, 2015 at 6:31pm by JLouis »
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Ciao998 Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 263 Location: Kennewick, WA Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2013	Re: 25-20 WCF Load help needed! Reply #2 - Jan 17^th, 2015 at 7:16pm	Print Post
	25 wcf will shoot with anything.


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wader4 Junior Member Offline Posts: 52 Location: Eau Claire WI Joined: Sep 3^rd, 2013	Re: 25-20 WCF Load help needed! Reply #3 - Jan 17^th, 2015 at 7:37pm	Print Post
	Where do I start? 7 grains?


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Ciao998 Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 263 Location: Kennewick, WA Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2013	Re: 25-20 WCF Load help needed! Reply #4 - Jan 17^th, 2015 at 7:49pm	Print Post
	Oops! Gettin ahead of myself. Disregard that info.


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wader4 Junior Member Offline Posts: 52 Location: Eau Claire WI Joined: Sep 3^rd, 2013	Re: 25-20 WCF Load help needed! Reply #5 - Jan 17^th, 2015 at 7:52pm	Print Post
	About the same as the Single shot? At least in the same neighborhood! LOL!


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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 12273 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: 25-20 WCF Load help needed! Reply #6 - Jan 17^th, 2015 at 8:08pm	Print Post
	You were correct, John. If you don't like a post you can always delete it. Bet I delete half my posts. Dad.

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Ciao998 Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 263 Location: Kennewick, WA Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2013	Re: 25-20 WCF Load help needed! Reply #7 - Jan 17^th, 2015 at 9:52pm	Print Post
	Thanks dad, so similar to 25-20 ss loads. You can also ask Gail. She's sharper than 99.9% of us John


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UtahDave Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 395 Location: Heber City, Utah Joined: Aug 14^th, 2010	Re: 25-20 WCF Load help needed! Reply #8 - Jan 17^th, 2015 at 10:55pm	Print Post
	I have the same barrel and am getting good results but it is still early. Do a search and you will find some posts from last year. Brass is not so common. I'm using 9 something grains of A4100 but that is hard to find right now. There are posts on alternatives. I find I have to cast quite hot to get good bullets but not a real issue. Jerry H is the guru of this caliber. Have fun! Dave


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JerryH Frequent Elocutionist Offline ASSRA Member #10876 Posts: 1320 Location: Easton, CA Joined: Nov 9^th, 2014	Re: 25-20 WCF Load help needed! Reply #9 - Jan 18^th, 2015 at 3:36am	Print Post
	Wade, I'm using 9.6 grains of AA4100 with a 120 gr. Mos bullet. According to Western Powder Ramshot Enforcer is the same as AA4100 (you should call them just to verify that yourself) and I would give that a try before the other powders you have. Remington or Federal Match primers work best for me. I'm not sure how much to advise you to use with your 105 gr. bullet. Start well below my charge weight and work your way up slowly. Your rifle will let you know when you find the right velocity. My rifle shoots best right at 1660 fps but that's a pretty stout load and tends to be a little hard on brass. It's safe in my rifle but not in a couple of others that I know of. Other shooters out here are running their bullets around 1500 fps with good results also. I would highly recommend using Remington brass as Winchester brass only lasts around 10 shots for me. I can usually get 200 plus firings out of a Remington case, sometimes as many as 500 before the case starts to fail. My loading data shows what works for me, but I'm not saying it'll work for you or be safe in your rifle. YMMV. Proceed with caution and have fun. You'll like your 25-20WCF. JerryH AKA Jerry_H

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wader4 Junior Member Offline Posts: 52 Location: Eau Claire WI Joined: Sep 3^rd, 2013	Re: 25-20 WCF Load help needed! Reply #10 - Jan 18^th, 2015 at 8:38am	Print Post
	Thank You Jerry and the rest of all that replied so far! Like I said, it's not really what I wanted but it sounds like it maybe better for me. Only time will tell. I do have a starting point and that is what I really needed to move forward with this cartridge. Anymore hints and pointers are always welcomed! Wade


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: 25-20 WCF Load help needed! Reply #11 - Jan 18^th, 2015 at 12:47pm	Print Post
	I might add that Jerry's Douglas Barrel is a 10 Twist.

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Hi-Wall56 Full Member Offline Posts: 204 Location: Banks of the Brazos River Joined: Feb 11^th, 2011	Re: 25-20 WCF Load help needed! Reply #12 - Jan 18^th, 2015 at 1:38pm	Print Post
	Jerry, Does your Douglas 1:10 twist have 6 lands and grooves. I don't have a 25wcf but thinking real hard about putting one together. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Kirk


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JerryH Frequent Elocutionist Offline ASSRA Member #10876 Posts: 1320 Location: Easton, CA Joined: Nov 9^th, 2014	Re: 25-20 WCF Load help needed! Reply #13 - Jan 18^th, 2015 at 8:53pm	Print Post
	J Louis is right about my barrel being a Douglas 10 twist. It's a XX with 6 lands and grooves and is finished at 28". The rifle it's on is a CPA. Chambering was done with a borrowed lever gun reamer. JerryH AKA Jerry_H

	I'm not a complete idiot, some of my parts are missing.
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Hi-Wall56 Full Member Offline Posts: 204 Location: Banks of the Brazos River Joined: Feb 11^th, 2011	Re: 25-20 WCF Load help needed! Reply #14 - Jan 18^th, 2015 at 10:03pm	Print Post
	Thanks Jerry Looking forward to building a 25 WCF in the near future. Right now still working out the kinks on a .38-50 Rem-Hep but the .25 is next on the list. Kirk


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