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Jan 11th, 2015 at 8:52pm
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Bought a Stevens Model 45, 44 action, on GB today. Ordering Rocky Mountain Brass and I understand you can specify what primer you want. What is recommended? Have 150 grain bullets ordered and looking for a mild smokeless load for it. All I can find is loads for lighter bullets. Looking for a casual target/plinking load. Not trying to win any matches. Suggestions? If all else fails a case full of black powder will work but am looking for a smokeless option.
  
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Reply #1 - Jan 11th, 2015 at 9:43pm
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I'm shooting a CPA 44 1/2 chambered for 28-30.I'm using a Darr 28cal bullet weighing 147grs with 12.2grs of 4759 with very good results.
  
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Reply #2 - Jan 11th, 2015 at 11:33pm
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Regarding primers, I'd go with the small pistol primer pocket, because of the case head size.

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Reply #3 - Jan 12th, 2015 at 2:08am
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I have both.  My RMC cases (from Dave Casey) came with a very small hole in the Small Pistol primer pocket.  That may be OK for extreme accuracy, but a standard size hole would make de-capping easier.  I use a 310 tool with a Universal De-capping chamber.

My load for 200 yards has been 11.6 grains 4227 with a 142 grain Hoch nose-pour bullet.  I think it might shoot more accurately with more powder, but it's a 44 action.

FWIW, the original UMC cases had LR (or maybe LP) primers.

I think the 28-30 was always shot with a smokeless priming charge.  Unless you want to clean between shots.  It is really a black-to-smokeless transition cartridge.
  
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Reply #4 - Jan 22nd, 2015 at 8:11pm
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What is the difference between the small pistol primer pocket and the small rifle primer pocket? Why use the small pistol primer instead of the small rifle primer?
  
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Reply #5 - Jan 23rd, 2015 at 12:34am
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Nothing with the small pocket, both rifle and pistol are the same depth @ .117 - .123 

Large rifle and pistol pockets are different depths. Pistol is .117 - .123, rifle .125 - .132 

The above are SAAMI specs.

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Reply #6 - Jan 23rd, 2015 at 2:06am
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I use pistol primers (both small & large) in 2 of my 44 actions because I often get misfires when rifle primers are used.  Apparently not enough consistent oomph with the mainsprings.  Mainsprings in both actions have been replaced, but the rifle primer misfires have continued.
  
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Reply #7 - Jan 23rd, 2015 at 5:06pm
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Have you tried seating the primers through a piece of paper to set them out another two thou or so. I have a 44 1/2 from CPA and when using some primers which are a bit shorter than .127" this cures the problem. My rifle also has a screw under the lever which adjusts the mainspring tension. Having said this, too much mainspring tension causes the trigger to give problems, it's a bit of a balancing act, with my rifle at least, YMMV.
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Reply #8 - Jan 25th, 2015 at 3:43am
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Mike, my Stevens 44 actions are originals, not CPA actions.  Because they are old 44 actions, I make every effort not to use hot loads.  The pistol primers help keep pressures down.  4227 and 4759 are not too hard to ignite.

Yes, the trigger pull & hammer fall on those old Stevens actions is very much a balancing act.  I would rather favor a good trigger and stick with pistol primers.

  
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