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Jan 8th, 2015 at 1:34am
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When I was offered this Winchester HW I thought long & hard but it has significant history with regard to competitive use of single shot rifles here in Australia....and the price was just too good to pass on! It's a .32/40 presentation rifle given in 1953 to the Secretary (Alfred H Whitwer) of the Hahndorf Rifle Club in Adelaide, South Australia (these details are stamped on the side of the barrel). As I've mentioned in previous posts, the Hahndorf area was settled by German immigrants to Australia during the 1860s onwards and their match shooting traditions came with them. Each year a Kingship shoot competition was held (200 yds,12 shots, 2 sighters, at a Germanic ring target). I believe this tradition continued untill the 1970s. Single shot rifles were used, with HWs proving very popular in .32/40, .38/55 & 56. I've managed to collect four Hahndorf HWs. 

Alfred Whitwer was active in the club from the 1920's thru to the 50's and this rifle was presented by the club as recognition his contributions.
 
Apart from the distinctive brass plated action (which is growing on me) this rifle has a PG stock, a 30" #2 half rd/oct barrel and is fitted with sling eyes. It has a mid range vernier and a windage adjustable front sight. The bore is excellent and it shoots very nicely.

Just thought I'd share an "interesting" HW from Oz.
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Re: A very different HW
Reply #1 - Jan 8th, 2015 at 2:38am
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Spud, Is it really brass, or is it gold plated steel?
  
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Schzbob, GOLD Shocked I'm fairly sure it is brass but how do you tell for certain?
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Reply #3 - Jan 8th, 2015 at 5:02am
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Piece of leather to see if you get any verdigris?

  

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Reply #4 - Jan 8th, 2015 at 6:46am
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Brass will darken (oxidize) with age. Gold will remain shiny forever. Look somewhere that it has not been polished like inside the action.
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Reply #5 - Jan 8th, 2015 at 8:24am
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Plating with brass, a copper - zinc alloy, is difficult.  Plating with gold is relatively easy and it doesn't take much to do the job.   I'm betting on gold unless it says brass somewhere.   

Nice looking rifle. 

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Reply #6 - Jan 8th, 2015 at 1:26pm
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I think I would go with gold, also. A jeweler could probably tell you.

The thing that I wonder about is, what do the Winchester records say about it. Could anyone run his serial number for him?

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Reply #7 - Jan 8th, 2015 at 3:33pm
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Interesting rifle. 

Can you show us the whole rifle? Please.

I bet it's gold plated. 

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Reply #8 - Jan 9th, 2015 at 5:36am
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I'm sure it is brass plating...gold would have been nice! My good wife took a real interest in the rifle when I mentioned the possibility Cheesy
Took the stock off and there were slight indications of verdigris on the wood so I think that clinches it.
Also got hold of the original production details. No mention of plating and it left Winchester in Jan 1899 with a #2 round barrel in .38/56 so the .32/40 is definitely a replacement.
I'll post a full length photo over the weekend. 
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Reply #9 - Jan 9th, 2015 at 9:38am
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Check it with a magnet. Roll Eyes
  

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Reply #10 - Jan 9th, 2015 at 9:58am
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I did some more research and brass plating is done but with rather complex plating solutions.  (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)

One can even buy a Plating kit from Caswells to brass plate at home.   

It looks nice.  I would be real careful about keeping cleaning solutions like Hoppes off of the brass.   

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Reply #11 - Jan 9th, 2015 at 11:34am
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Plating it wouldn't be any more complicated than the process for chrome plating, except to stop before the chroming step is done. Chroming parts involves electroplating with brass or copper prior to applying the final chrome finish.
  

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Reply #12 - Jan 9th, 2015 at 9:58pm
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Whether it's brass or gold, it looks awesome.
  

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Reply #13 - Jan 9th, 2015 at 10:33pm
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It's not Solid Brass is it?

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Reply #14 - Jan 9th, 2015 at 11:30pm
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Terry, no it's not solid brass. The original action has been electro plated with a thin layer of brass. I'm sure this process has not weakened the strength of the action as plenty of High & low wall actions were nickel plated by Winchester as a special order option. At first I found the "brass" look a bit over the top but I'm really starting to like it. This rifle has not been fired much since the 50's and the brass has not been polished much so it has started to develop a nice mellow patina. My only criticism is the shiny barrel finish, probably a hot blue (but typical of the 50's). A good rust blue would look so much better. Still overall I'm very pleased with this rifle, it's history and it shoots well to boot!

Joe, here are some full length photos .....I need a better camera.
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