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2014 ASSRA All American
Jan 1st, 2015 at 6:18pm
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2014 ASSRA All American 

Off Hand

Arizona Fall           Byron Goff 1066-1
ASSRA Summer      Martin Stenback 1049-5
Arizona Fall           Russ Hooks 983-1
Eau Claire Fall       Brian Dyrcz 968-0
Arizona Fall           Klaus Schattleitner 963-0
Eau Claire May       Laurie Gapko  954-2
Eau Claire Fall       Steven Studt 954-1
Eau Claire Fall       Bill Flanagan 893-2
Eau Claire Fall       Tom Jones 892-1
ASSRA Spring       Matt Blackall 891-2
Eau Claire May      Stan Krogman 847-0
Eau Claire Fall       Wade Nelson 840-0
Eau Claire May      Joel Peabody 845-2   




Bench Rest

Arizona Fall            Donn Hanks 1246-46
Arizona Fall            Tommy Mason 1237-37
Arizona Fall            Klaus Schattleitner 1224-24
Eau Claire Fall        Bill Flanagan 1204-12
Eau Claire Fall        Tom Bates 1194-16
Eau Claire Fall        Brian Dyrcz 1186-10
Eau Claire Fall        Tom Jones 1184-8
Eau Claire May       Laurie Gapko 1160-6
Eau Claire Fall        Wade Nelson 1144-4
Eau Claire Fall        Steven Studt 1141-4 
Eau Claire May       Stan Krogman 1111-6   
Eau Claire May       Joel Peabody 1071-1      
Eau Claire May        Tom Bauer 980-4   


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Re: 2014 ASSRA All American
Reply #1 - Jan 1st, 2015 at 7:23pm
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Any affiliated club can put on an All American Match
50 shots Bench Rest
50 Shots Off Hand
50 Shots Black Powder
They can be part of another match. i.e. First 50 shots of a Hudson Match for offhand.
Or they can be run as a separate match.
You can enter as many times as your club runs the match but only one entry at any one match date.  
i.e.  if you shoot at Beeson's you could enter a score during the Spring, Summer, and Fall matches.
Only your highest score would be used for the year end match results.

$5.00 to the ASSRA is the entry fee plus whatever your club charges
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Reply #2 - Jan 28th, 2015 at 11:58am
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I have some questions about this match:

1. Can the targets be kept by the club until the end of the year, and then be posted?

2. Do the targets have to be turned in or just posted by the club?

3. I take it that you have to have 50 shots completed with BP, to fulfill the requirements? The reason I ask is that I don't see anything designated as BP in the posted scores.

4. What are the BP rules for this match? Do you use the ASSRA BP rules?

5. Are the 50 shots with BP offhand or bench?

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Reply #3 - Jan 29th, 2015 at 12:29pm
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Frank:
1. Can the targets be kept by the club until the end of the year, and then be posted?
Yes you can keep the targets till year end and then send the scores and a check for $5.00 per entry made out to ASSRA to:
Martin Stenback:  N9552 Van Dyne Rd., Van Dyne, WI 54979
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2. Do the targets have to be turned in or just posted by the club?
The club match director (Schuetzenmeister) can keep track of the scores and send the scores at year end.

3. I take it that you have to have 50 shots completed with BP, to fulfill the requirements? The reason I ask is that I don't see anything designated as BP in the posted scores.
No one shot the Black Powder match during 2014 or if they did the score was not turned in.  I know that Stan Krogman shot it at least once at the Eau Claire club in past years.

4. What are the BP rules for this match? Do you use the ASSRA BP rules?
I would assume ASSRA rules are used for this match.  Laurie Gapko would know for sure.

5. Are the 50 shots with BP offhand or bench?
At present either qualifies for the match but I would think a better score could be turned in by shooting it bench rest.

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Reply #4 - Feb 15th, 2015 at 8:10pm
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The All American is not a 3 match aggregate?  Just a collection of 3 individual 50 shot matches?

Are you thinking about doing it Frank?
  

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Reply #5 - Feb 15th, 2015 at 9:15pm
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Bob,
Yes, I am thinking about it but, I have to talk to the guy's in the club first. Our club is a ASSRA club and it would be nice to have another BP shoot on the West coast. 

Also, I have to ask, as Bob is infering. Is the winner of this match, the one that turns in the highest score of the aggregate of the three matches? Or, in other words for the guys that only shot the smokeless OH and BR, are they scored with the guys that shot OH, BR and BP?

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Reply #6 - Feb 17th, 2015 at 8:16pm
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I am not sure that I understand the question.
If you shoot an offhand score with black powder you could submit it for both the Black powder match and the offhand mach.  It would cost you $10.00, $5.00 for each class entered. 

If it is the highest score entered for all the offhand matches it would be the year end winner. 

If it is the highest score entered in the black powder match it would be the year end winner for that match.  In the black powder match that score would also be competing against all black powder scores shot off the bench and offhand.

If you shoot black powder bench rest you could enter it in both the bench rest match and the black powder match.  It would cost you $10.00, $5.00 for each class entered. 

Bench rest is bench rest and offhand is offhand but in the black powder match they compete against each other.  I was told that this was the way the original rules were set up.  It would seem to make it not worthwhile to shoot the black powder match offhand if you were only interested in winning the black powder match, but that may not be the goal of the person shooting the match.

If the match is shot with black powder and entered in the offhand or bench rest matches it could be noted that it was shot with black powder.

In the black powder match it could be noted as being shot either bench rest or offhand.


  

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Reply #7 - Feb 18th, 2015 at 1:30am
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Thank you, Martin. I was totally off base on this match. I though that it was a agg. match and the highest total of the three matches, added together would be the winner.

I just looked at my most recent rule book (June 2010) and I can't find this match. Can the rules be posted in this section, with these scores or seperately?

One more question, will the BP class be restricted to original BP chambering?

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Reply #8 - Feb 18th, 2015 at 3:38am
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That sounds like the 50 shot bench match at Tacoma could be entered in All American.  We shoot it at both spring and fall matches.
  

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Reply #9 - Feb 18th, 2015 at 12:37pm
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It is not in the rules but was published in the Journal some time ago. I will try to find it and bet it posted on this site. John could also print it in the Journal from time to time as a reminder.
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Reply #10 - Feb 18th, 2015 at 12:40pm
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frnkeore wrote on Feb 18th, 2015 at 1:30am:


I just looked at my most recent rule book (June 2010) and I can't find this match. Can the rules be posted in this section, with these scores or seperately?

One more question, will the BP class be restricted to original BP chambering?

Frank

I think the rules are like any other bench rest match but with black powder which may be a duplex of black and smokeless.

I think its any cartridge.
  

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Reply #11 - Feb 18th, 2015 at 12:44pm
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Schuetzenmiester wrote on Feb 18th, 2015 at 3:38am:
That sounds like the 50 shot bench match at Tacoma could be entered in All American.  We shoot it at both spring and fall matches.


Yes.  This is what the Arizona club does.
  

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