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Stevens 44 in 30 Luger
Nov 16th, 2014 at 6:03pm
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Bought off Gunbroker and it is a mystery to me.  No markings at all except a tiny "I" (maybe) on the top left of the receiver and a 44 and a 6 on the lower tang.  Nothing on the barrel.  Has a brass(?) scope, low power, never saw one before.  Couple patches/screw holes on the scope top.  Optics are not so good with good size black flecks.  The stock was advertised as a replacement and is in excellent shape.  The receiver is a funny brown, looks anodized if that is possible.  It is seemingly in such good shape I am wondering if it is a reproduction, although the lever and hammer are worn some.  The buttplate is marked Fajen, which worries me.
Any opinions are very welcome. Did not have a 44 (do have a CPA) and now maybe I do.
  

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Re: Stevens 44 in 30 Luger
Reply #1 - Nov 16th, 2014 at 6:10pm
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The color of the reciever is what you get when trying to hot blue case colored steel. Bit like a plumb. Not much Stevens left there.
  
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Re: Stevens 44 in 30 Luger
Reply #2 - Nov 16th, 2014 at 6:54pm
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Looks like a very much modified 44. Re blued, barreled,  and restocked. Never saw one in 30 Luger. Scope may be Litchert. Not sure of spelling. Someone here should recognize it.
  
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Reply #3 - Nov 16th, 2014 at 6:57pm
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Wonder how they did the extractor?
  
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Reply #4 - Nov 16th, 2014 at 7:17pm
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The scope is a Wallensak. Under the rear cap, there should be a ocular lens cell that has a notch and pin to locate it.

A 30 Luger can be made from 38 Special brass, making it a 30 Luger R if it has a rim. 

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Reply #5 - Nov 16th, 2014 at 8:38pm
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No serial # on the tang???

  

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Reply #6 - Nov 17th, 2014 at 10:42am
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The only markings anywhere are shown in pictures ReceiverTopMedium and TangMarkingsMedium.  I guess the '6' could be a '9'.

Care is needed when loading.  Have to keep the case protruding enough for the extractor to catch, which is more of an ejector, throws the case 10 feet.

Fine with me if the rifle is a kludge but it seems strange to put so much effort in a non-standard caliber and non-standard construction.
  

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Re: Stevens 44 in 30 Luger
Reply #7 - Nov 17th, 2014 at 12:13pm
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Fajen made reproduction stocks for many years...It appears you have a good foundation to make a pretty cool rifle....Just a bit of trimming here and there.
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Reply #8 - Nov 17th, 2014 at 8:36pm
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Looking at 44s that I have logged in my database, the number 44 stamped on the lower tang is just like one very late 44 in the log.   The lack of a 5-digit serial number is curious, but I have found one 414 that was proofed and serial numbered by BSA in England, with a 3 digit s/n.

Pure speculation, but maybe this is an action that was sold abroad....(?)

The .30 Luger is a 34,000 psi cartridge in the Quickload database.   That kind of pressure won't immediately damage a good, tight 44, but it's a bit much for a steady diet.
  

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Re: Stevens 44 in 30 Luger
Reply #9 - Nov 18th, 2014 at 7:37am
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I believe those patches and screws on the scope top you make mention of are for making adjustments to parallax, and the focus. I have a 1936 Mossberg 4X scope that is named a Model 6 that look a lot like the scope tube itself in your photos. Is the rifle stamped 30 LUGER on the barrel? How have you determined it is a 30 Luger?

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Re: Stevens 44 in 30 Luger
Reply #10 - Nov 18th, 2014 at 12:37pm
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Yes I have learned the plates are for focus and parallax.  No caliber marking.  It was advertised as 30 Luger and I fireformed ~90 pieces of flimsy, easily crumpled brass.  Shot poorly (2" @ 50 yards) but then I did not know about the focus, and needed to badly.
  

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Reply #11 - Nov 18th, 2014 at 1:04pm
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I had a bit of luck getting info about an old Cummins scope by searching Google Patents.   Darned if I didn't get some good drawings out of it.

  

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Reply #12 - Dec 4th, 2014 at 9:59am
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Fine with me if the rifle is a kludge but it seems strange to put so much effort in a non-standard caliber and non-standard construction.


These sorts of results come about from the home workshops of folks who have no formal training, but who need something to occupy their time.  They are well intended folks but their creativity has gone esque.  It is very much like putting Jackson Pollack in a room, handing him a pail full of paint, a 6 inch wide house brush, and a 6 foot X 9 foot panel and shutting the door behind yourself on the way out.  Come back in three hours to see what has resulted, and well . .  .  .  .  .(you fill in the blanks). 

There is nothing sacrosanct anymore.  In an earlier time, the victim here (J.Stevens Model 44), would have been treated with and shown more respect and would have been given more rights as a defense against such atrocities.

Oh well, this is American, and everyone has the right to do as they may please.

At best, its a conversation piece !
  
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Re: Stevens 44 in 30 Luger
Reply #13 - Dec 4th, 2014 at 12:57pm
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So true.   A short while ago I acquired one chambered in . . . . . . . . . . (wait for it) . . . . .    .45-70!   An old Winchester octagon lever-gun barrel grafted on by somebody who may not have had a lathe.   Done a long time ago, judging by the buildup of crud in the thing.  Shank was so out of truth that it might have been filed, and the thread cut with a die.   Shocked 

(It's a smoothbore, so it's not quite a .45-70, but still.)
  

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Re: Stevens 44 in 30 Luger
Reply #14 - Dec 4th, 2014 at 2:38pm
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Ran across a Stevens 0-44 1/2 that someone decided to try to convert to take .410 shotgun shells.

  

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