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gunlaker Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2576 Location: lower mainland, B.C. Joined: Dec 13^th, 2010	Ballard .40-85 bullet photo Nov 5^th, 2014 at 12:30pm	Print Post
	Does anyone out there have a side profile photo of the 370gr paper patched bullet used in the .40-85 Ballard? Does anyone know if this bullet has a hollow base, or a flat base? I'd like to get an old Pacific shooting and would like to duplicate the original bullet. I could probably get reasonably close based on the pictures in Dutcher's book, but I figured I'd ask around to see if a better one could be found. thanks, Chris.


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fallingblock ASSRA Board Member Offline Posts: 651 Location: Wisconsin Joined: Apr 16^th, 2004	Re: Ballard .40-85 bullet photo Reply #1 - Nov 5^th, 2014 at 7:17pm	Print Post
	I have some of the paper patched bullets stashed some place safe. That is I have no idea where they are if I find them would be happy to send you one. Cheers, Laurie

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gunlaker Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2576 Location: lower mainland, B.C. Joined: Dec 13^th, 2010	Re: Ballard .40-85 bullet photo Reply #2 - Nov 6^th, 2014 at 1:55pm	Print Post
	Laurie, I live in Canada so it might be bad to send a cast bullet out of the country. Someone at BACO told me they got in trouble with the U.S. gov't for exporting bullets without a permit when they sent sample bullets with their molds! Probably best not to send any lest that gets you onto some sort of no fly list I appreciate the thought though. Brent D sent me an email about a book that has some good photos. I'm going to see if I can find a used copy. thanks, Chris.


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Seanmp Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 294 Location: Land O Lakes Joined: May 19^th, 2014	Re: Ballard .40-85 bullet photo Reply #3 - Nov 7^th, 2014 at 10:47am	Print Post
	I can confirm that from personal experience Last winter a client sent me three barrels from a higher end European air rifle. He wanted the throats and leades recut to allow heavier bullets. Large bore airguns are inherently breach seated but there is no mechanical advantage as the bolt is the seater. He seated bullets at probe depth in all three barrels to give me the information I needed to properly cut the throat and leade. US Customs seized and held the barrels for a number of weeks before contacting him. In the end they knocked out the bullets and sent the barrels on to me. In the intervening weeks the owner became an irritating demanding A Hole so he ended up getting his barrels returned as soon as they arrived 10 weeks later.

	Sean
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rustyrelx Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 474 Location: Wallace Idaho Joined: Oct 9^th, 2007	Re: Ballard .40-85 bullet photo Reply #4 - Nov 9^th, 2014 at 1:50pm	Print Post
	Hollow base with a thick base and small hollow twist is 1 in 20 so you can go a little heavier projectile should you choose to. 370 was the standard and I have used 330 also with good results paper patched lead bullets were mostly all hollow base for expansion purposes. Don


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gunlaker Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2576 Location: lower mainland, B.C. Joined: Dec 13^th, 2010	Re: Ballard .40-85 bullet photo Reply #5 - Nov 9^th, 2014 at 8:28pm	Print Post
	Thanks Don.


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rr2241tx Full Member Offline Posts: 137 Location: San Marcos Joined: Mar 27^th, 2012	Re: Ballard .40-85 bullet photo Reply #6 - Nov 13^th, 2014 at 3:36pm	Print Post
	My Ballard #5 Pacific came with a bullet mold/reloading tool that casts a 317 gr flatbase grease groove bullet. Might be a good bullet for your too. If I was going to shoot very many of them, I'd have a mold made though because those steel tongs get mighty warm by the time the mold gets up to temperature. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)


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gunlaker Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2576 Location: lower mainland, B.C. Joined: Dec 13^th, 2010	Re: Ballard .40-85 bullet photo Reply #7 - Nov 13^th, 2014 at 5:34pm	Print Post
	I should have the rifle in a week or so. I'll do a chamber cast and figure out what I'll need for brass. I do plan on shooting paper patched bullets in it, unless the bore is too rough. I don't plan on shooting it much though. I mainly bought it because I've never owned a Ballard before Chris.


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SSShooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2942 Location: Southern NJ Joined: Aug 1^st, 2010	Re: Ballard .40-85 bullet photo Reply #8 - Nov 14^th, 2014 at 3:03pm	Print Post
	rr2241tx wrote on Nov 13^th, 2014 at 3:36pm: If I was going to shoot very many of them, I'd have a mold made though because those steel tongs get mighty warm by the time the mold gets up to temperature. Could you fit on a pair of wooden handles like those that go on a file or rasp?

	Glenn - Stevens 044 1/2, Bartlein SS 5R barrel in 22LR
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