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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 12599 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Schuetzen shooter photo Reply #15 - Nov 2^nd, 2014 at 7:40pm	Print Post
	The palm rest in the picture is fastened at the front of the action. Guess again! Joe.

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feuerbixler Oldtimer Offline Posts: 791 Location: Munich / Bavaria Joined: Apr 23^rd, 2010	Re: Schuetzen shooter photo Reply #16 - Nov 2^nd, 2014 at 7:50pm	Print Post
	What I wanted to say: It is not a Swiss Stutzer in 7.5mm, but a Belgian rifle in 6mm. This kind of rifle and the caliber fits more to the text on the back of the photo... Biggi.

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 12599 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Schuetzen shooter photo Reply #17 - Nov 2^nd, 2014 at 7:54pm	Print Post
	Have to strongly disagree sugar. But you know me, strongly like a Frankonian. Joe.

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 12599 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Schuetzen shooter photo Reply #18 - Nov 2^nd, 2014 at 7:59pm	Print Post
	Have to agree with Wayne on this one. Looks like a big stout Swiss stutzer to me. Look how thick the wrist of the stock is. Palm rest is attached at the front of the action rather than the forestock. What really bothers me is......... where is that mans hat? Joe

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 12599 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Schuetzen shooter photo Reply #19 - Nov 2^nd, 2014 at 8:02pm	Print Post
	feuerbixler wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2014 at 7:50pm: What I wanted to say: It is not a Swiss Stutzer in 7.5mm, but a Belgian rifle in 6mm. This kind of rifle and the caliber fits more to the text on the back of the photo... Biggi. Text is about Flobert rifles? Huh? Like a Frankonian bulldog, I know I know. Joe.

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feuerbixler Oldtimer Offline Posts: 791 Location: Munich / Bavaria Joined: Apr 23^rd, 2010	Re: Schuetzen shooter photo Reply #20 - Nov 2^nd, 2014 at 8:02pm	Print Post
	Me and my rudimental French language knowledge... ...well... ...I am pretty sure that they shot with 6mm Flobert rifles in the old days. Thats what the newspaper snippet tells me! French, not Frankonian! Biggi.

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 12599 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Schuetzen shooter photo Reply #21 - Nov 2^nd, 2014 at 8:04pm	Print Post
	It's not a Flobert rifle. Joe.

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feuerbixler Oldtimer Offline Posts: 791 Location: Munich / Bavaria Joined: Apr 23^rd, 2010	Re: Schuetzen shooter photo Reply #22 - Nov 2^nd, 2014 at 8:06pm	Print Post
	I translated it "FLOBERT SHOOTERS CLUB" = "Société Les Flobertistes" Ey, my French is much better than yours! And Flobert rifles were up to 9mm in the old days. Biggi.

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 12599 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Schuetzen shooter photo Reply #23 - Nov 2^nd, 2014 at 8:14pm	Print Post
	The rifle in the picture is not a Flobert, smarty pants. Joe

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feuerbixler Oldtimer Offline Posts: 791 Location: Munich / Bavaria Joined: Apr 23^rd, 2010	Re: Schuetzen shooter photo Reply #24 - Nov 2^nd, 2014 at 8:19pm	Print Post
	Did I say that it is a Flobert rifle? Clubs which used to shoot with Flobert rifles switched later to .22 rifles or similar. But they kept their names like "Les Flobertistets". A name like "the Twenty-Two'sers" would sound odd... And this seems to be a 6mm Martini rifle with palm rest. Biggi.

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 12599 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Schuetzen shooter photo Reply #25 - Nov 2^nd, 2014 at 8:21pm	Print Post
	Yes. Go to bed, you are obviously very tired. Sleep tite. Joe.

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 12599 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Schuetzen shooter photo Reply #26 - Nov 2^nd, 2014 at 8:28pm	Print Post
	No, you said it's a Francotte rifle. But I agree with Wayne. Think it's a Swiss Stutzer rifle. Okay maybe I'm the one that's tired. Joe.

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QuestionableMaynard8130 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4144 Location: Benton Harbor MI Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: Schuetzen shooter photo Reply #27 - Nov 2^nd, 2014 at 9:39pm	Print Post
	Hat????? try shooting one of 'em with the Swiss Mil-spec hot WW2 K-31 jacketed round. I did to get my empty cases, (I got a whole bunch of that ammo cheap from a down-state gunshop-----dumbo owner thought he was ordering 6.5x55 for the local sweede-shooters) Any how after a batch of that you want a chin-strap on your beanie. Actually they are not bad offhand--- but off the bench its just like a hot heavy 30-06, but out of a schuetzen stocked rifle. Personally I believe that the original photo and that clipping were totally mismatched by the seller. Just look at the lever in the photo and then at the lever of the rifle in the Cowans ad. Its pretty clearly a Swiss Hammereli Martini If I could remember how I'd post pics of my rifles but I think both of them are on the display racks in the photo of the ASSRA/NRA show booth on the cover of the last issue of the Journal

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feuerbixler Oldtimer Offline Posts: 791 Location: Munich / Bavaria Joined: Apr 23^rd, 2010	Re: Schuetzen shooter photo Reply #28 - Nov 3^rd, 2014 at 8:29am	Print Post
	My opinion of the day is like follows: The posing shooter is one of those "Les Flobertistes" club guys from 1927 mentioned in the clipping. And I don't think they made an upgrade to Swiss Stutzer later, they were shooting those small bore sporting rifles like a "Francotte" in gallery matches. If we would have a detailed town map of Brussels from early 1930s, we could figure out what kind of buildings were on the mentioned place "322 Tervueren Road". If there was just a small building with a restaurant and no garden, they shot some indoor rifles with smaller calibers. If there would be shown an outdoor range, the likelihood would be higher that this is a Swiss stutzer. Well, thats like it is! Biggi.

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QuestionableMaynard8130 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4144 Location: Benton Harbor MI Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: Schuetzen shooter photo Reply #29 - Nov 3^rd, 2014 at 8:42am	Print Post


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