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case and box linings
Oct 20th, 2014 at 11:46am
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   It's always a good idea to have some cushioning in cases and boxes, and linings can be made of many things.  One of my first mistakes in case lining was to use felt from the fabric store.  Rusted heck out of things, because the dye was fixed with salt.
    I have no experience with fleece, but good wool cloth has always worked fine.   If you go to a fabric store, you will give $35-40/yd for it, but at the Good Will Store or other place that sells used clothing, you can get a nice ladies' winter coat for a few bucks, and rip that up into enough cloth to line a couple of gun cases.   I prefer dark green, but red or blue could be nice.

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Re: case and box linings
Reply #1 - Oct 21st, 2014 at 8:17am
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One of the things I learned when I restored an old Gurstner tool chest is that Gurstner supplys parts. They have felt for relining the drawers. It won't react with tools and it is stiff like thin card stock. That makes cutting and fitting the material a lot easier.

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Reply #2 - Oct 21st, 2014 at 10:31am
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I would check with Durofelt (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links); I buy felt stock to make over powder wads from them and they are great to deal with.  They may know of non corrosive felt.  I'm not sure if they make colored felts but call them.   

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Reply #3 - Oct 21st, 2014 at 11:17am
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I have a local pool table manufacturer, who sells the felt used on modern pool tables. It's not the same as old felt, and doesn't have any salts or chemicals in it to harm a gun. They sell it to me for $15 a yd. in 60" widths.
Most larger cities have someplace that recovers pool tables, and should have the material, or you can order it online.
  

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Reply #4 - Oct 21st, 2014 at 12:45pm
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    Pool table cloth -- "baize" -- is somewhat thinner, so I prefer the more cushiony ladies' coat fabric.   The latter is also cheaper and comes in colors other than green.
    Probably the stiff felt from the tool box company would not be so easy to fit around and particularly over partitions, etc, as in a gun case.  For making the edges of the recesses in "French" style cases, I use thin cardboard with the wool fabric glued around it.  The two thicknesses of cloth make a nice cushion, and give a snug fit without binding.  It also gives the recesses a molded edge with a nice, finished appearance.

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Reply #5 - Oct 21st, 2014 at 10:45pm
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Is there any good instructional material available that describes making a classic wood gun case?

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Reply #6 - Oct 22nd, 2014 at 7:37am
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One small thing about box making that I had confirmed by experience is to make all the interior pieces out of Spanish Cedar. This is the wood used in cigar humidors. I used to make these and keepsake/jewelry boxes. I had one one for myself that I kept some inherited measuring and marking tools. I was posted away for 6 years and all my tools went into storage. When I returned everything had some rust on it, except those items that were inside that Spanish cedar box. They looked like they had been used yesterday. 
I had always known it was a good material for preserving things from mold/ mildew and insect damage but you can add oxidation to that. 
It's easy to get and a real pleasure to work. 
  

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Reply #7 - Oct 22nd, 2014 at 7:47am
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On a larger and grander scale, how about the lining on shelving in a gun safe?  I just bought a Cannon™ 48 gun safe, but don't like the shelf layout.  Does anyone know whether there is a source for the (apparently) peel-and-stick fabric with which they cover their shelves, walls, and partitions?  I hate the idea of going to them for it, since I'm afraid their markup on the fabric would be significant.

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Reply #8 - Oct 22nd, 2014 at 7:57am
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Green_Frog wrote on Oct 22nd, 2014 at 7:47am:
On a larger and grander scale, how about the lining on shelving in a gun safe?  I just bought a Cannon™ 48 gun safe, but don't like the shelf layout.  Does anyone know whether there is a source for the (apparently) peel-and-stick fabric with which they cover their shelves, walls, and partitions?  I hate the idea of going to them for it, since I'm afraid their markup on the fabric would be significant.

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Reply #9 - Oct 22nd, 2014 at 11:24pm
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I thinks it's also a good idea to keep in mind that the glues used for either the case making or to hold the lining may have a significant contribution to rusting.
  
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Reply #10 - Oct 23rd, 2014 at 8:41am
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Seanmp wrote on Oct 22nd, 2014 at 7:57am:
Green_Frog wrote on Oct 22nd, 2014 at 7:47am:
On a larger and grander scale, how about the lining on shelving in a gun safe?  I just bought a Cannon™ 48 gun safe, but don't like the shelf layout.  Does anyone know whether there is a source for the (apparently) peel-and-stick fabric with which they cover their shelves, walls, and partitions?  I hate the idea of going to them for it, since I'm afraid their markup on the fabric would be significant.

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Thanks, Seanmp.  That's the product type I want.  Now if I could match the existing color in my safe (grey/beige looking) I'd be all set.  I may have to go with "contrasting" colors.

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Reply #11 - Oct 24th, 2014 at 11:33am
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JS47 wrote on Oct 21st, 2014 at 10:45pm:
Is there any good instructional material available that describes making a classic wood gun case?

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I've made quite a few fitted and lined cases. I basically put the gun and all accessories inside the case, and arrange them until they look good. I use a sharpie to mark around everything, so I have a pattern for dividers. Then I use 1/4" thick wood to make up all the dividers, and glue them into place. Some larger solid fillers I make separately, and cover before installing them, as it makes fitting the cloth easier. I cover all the dividers first, so the material can extend onto the floor of the case a bit. Then cut and glue my floor filler pieces last, so I can test fit them prior to gluing them down. I use wood glue for the dividers, and filler blocks, but contact cement for the material.
Not a great picture, but this is a case I built for my 1893 Marlin two barrel takedown rifle:
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Reply #12 - Oct 24th, 2014 at 11:36am
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rgchristensen wrote on Oct 21st, 2014 at 12:45pm:
    Pool table cloth -- "baize" -- is somewhat thinner, so I prefer the more cushiony ladies' coat fabric.   The latter is also cheaper and comes in colors other than green.


Yes, pool table cloth is a little thinner, but it's made to wear well, and lasts forever without showing wear. It's also very nice to work with, and has no fuzzies like most felt has.
  

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Reply #13 - Oct 25th, 2014 at 9:00pm
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Marlinguy, that is real nice!
  
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Reply #14 - Oct 25th, 2014 at 10:58pm
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That is a nice looking case Marlinguy.  Thanks for the tips.

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