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Any of you familier with Meacham tools?
Oct 15th, 2014 at 3:29pm
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This looks like an interesting alternative to breech seating if you want a loaded cartridge. Do any of you have experience with this die or other tools from him?

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Reply #1 - Oct 15th, 2014 at 4:07pm
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I don't have that seater, but I do have one of their push through sizers.  It's quite well built although I rarely size bullets these days.

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Reply #2 - Oct 15th, 2014 at 6:02pm
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I have both a Meacham and a Vickerman.  They work well.  The Meacham may be a cut above in tolerances but, that can sometimes work against you using cast lead bullets of varying dia.
I might add that with my current loading method/practices, I seldom use either one any more.
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Reply #3 - Oct 15th, 2014 at 6:19pm
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Alternative to breech seating?  Breech seating has many advantages when it comes to accuracy not convenience. Once your fixed ammo is assembled, you're stuck with what you got.  We breech seat bullets for accuracy.

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Reply #4 - Oct 15th, 2014 at 8:26pm
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westerner wrote on Oct 15th, 2014 at 6:19pm:
Alternative to breech seating?  Breech seating has many advantages when it comes to accuracy not convenience. Once your fixed ammo is assembled, you're stuck with what you got.  We breech seat bullets for accuracy.

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Yes breech seating is mostly for accuracy, but from what I hear some people do it just to prolong brass life. That is more of what I am getting at here.
  
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Reply #5 - Oct 15th, 2014 at 9:27pm
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Fixed or breech seated, at the low pressures we use, brass lasts almost forever.   

The Meacham bullet seater is an alternative to a standard seating die only.

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Reply #6 - Oct 15th, 2014 at 9:39pm
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westerner wrote on Oct 15th, 2014 at 9:27pm:
Fixed or breech seated, at the low pressures we use, brass lasts almost forever.  

The Meacham bullet seater is an alternative to a standard seating die only.

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Fine, I retract the statement about breech seating. All I want to know if the tools are well made and if they work like they are designed to which is to seat a bullet properly without resizing and crimping the brass.
  
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Reply #7 - Oct 15th, 2014 at 10:03pm
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StevenHall wrote on Oct 15th, 2014 at 9:39pm:
westerner wrote on Oct 15th, 2014 at 9:27pm:
Fixed or breech seated, at the low pressures we use, brass lasts almost forever.  

The Meacham bullet seater is an alternative to a standard seating die only.

        Joe. 



Fine, I retract the statement about breech seating. All I want to know if the tools are well made and if they work like they are designed to which is to seat a bullet properly without resizing and crimping the brass.


Ah...... an official uncle!   Cheesy

Yes, Steve Meacham makes good stuff. 

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Reply #8 - Oct 17th, 2014 at 9:54pm
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Steven Hall:
I have Meacham's in-line seating die and his neck sizer die.  Both work very well. Don't let idiots like Westerner deter you from asking questions.  Most of us are pretty good guys and willing to help.
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Reply #9 - Oct 18th, 2014 at 12:40am
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Not an issue at all. You cant run me off that easy. I have thick skin. I could have plaid games with him all week, but I am more interested is skipping the BS and getting the answers I am looking for.

Thanks for your input.
  
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Reply #10 - Oct 18th, 2014 at 6:24am
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I have one, it's well made and designed.  Tollarences are tight takes some fiddling to get it set up right.

My offhand shooting it's not any advantage over regular seating dies. Opinion only.

They have a lot of fans in the BPCS community. 3/4 of that match is prone from sticks and relay times don't allow breech seating. Little bit more accuracy is an ad vantage. Not bench rest but close in practice. 

If you want one mine could be bought.

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Reply #11 - Oct 18th, 2014 at 12:48pm
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I won't be shooting competition at least not for a while. And if I ever get into competition I won't be shooting prone. It will either be offhand or seated matches with sticks. My uncle and use to shoot modern prone rifle matches at 500yds and it was the most uncomfortable shooting I have ever done.

The rifle I have now doesn't have set triggers or target sights. Once I figure out a decent load, if I can consistently hit my uncles steel target (about 1'x1') at 180yds offhand I will be happy.

Not sure I am ready to buy just yet. I only ordered 1 box of brass from Rocky Mountain, so if I wanted to shoot more than 20 rounds I would have to bring my press to the range with me. We are looking into making our own breech seaters, but if that doesn't work out I will probably buy one. Or if it does work out I might still buy one later down the road to have more options.
  
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Reply #12 - Oct 18th, 2014 at 1:33pm
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Steven those 20 pieces of brass would last a long time if you breech seat.  In the last couple of months I've switched to loading at the range and using a single case for my CPA and my Ruger, both in .32-40.  I've got a couple of hundred loadings on the case for my CPA and somewhat less for my Ruger.   

You can also tune a load more quickly if loading at the range.

What cartridge are you shooting anyway?

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Reply #13 - Oct 18th, 2014 at 1:48pm
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The rifle I bought is in 25-25 Stevens. So it is a small caliber and from what I understand the cases a fairly thin. From what I read it uses a 257 diameter 86 grain bullet. So I won't get the long range like with the big bore rounds, but that is ok with me. I like that it is a odd ball caliber and I could shoot it all day without recoil fatigue.
  
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Reply #14 - Oct 18th, 2014 at 11:51pm
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Steven
Most of my shooting is BPCR Silhouette. Regarding Meacham tools , I use the Meacham neck sizer to properly size the necks for my .45-70 and then use their in-line seater to seat bullets.  The neck sizer comes with 5 separate sizing collets so that you can fine tune the neck tension for the particular bullet you are loading.
The in-line seater has worked very well for me but I have only used it for bullets weighing 460 to 548 grains.
Also have a Vickerman that I use for .38-50 Rem-Hep. It is well made also.
In further response to your question, with the correct neck tension I have found no need to crimp. Some BP Silhouette and Target Rifle shooters "slip fit" their bullets ie; no neck tension.  Of those that slip fit, some apply a small amount of crimp, just enough to hold the bullet in the case.  Others leave the bullet loose enough to pull out and stuff back in.
Hope this is of some value in your quest for answers.

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