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Reply #30 - Oct 23rd, 2014 at 9:32pm
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12.5gr is at best a wimp 70% load.  seat that 405 over 17gr of tb and a .030" wad, and it will rival bpcr as it rockets downrange.

Interesting rfd.  Especially when IMR's Maximum data chart load for a 405gr bullet is:
13.0gr 1007 fps 25,600 CUP

Got anymore hot loads one should avoid shooting?  Roll Eyes


holy black john boy, yer wrong bud.  read what i posted above.

i ran a string of loads with 405 grain bullets from 12.5 to 17.5 grains.  i did VERY careful exams of the brass, spent primers, and rifle afterwards - not one load showed any signs of unsafe pressure.  h3ll, i could've loaded past 18 grains ... trail boss is not yer every day powder.  it's kinda like h4895 (another reduced load rifle powder), only even more forgiving.  consistent tb long range accuracy?  uh uh, i never found it.
  

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Reply #31 - Oct 31st, 2014 at 9:03am
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How about with a 120 grain bullet in a 28/30 Hank45
  
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Reply #32 - Oct 31st, 2014 at 9:17am
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Hank45 wrote on Oct 31st, 2014 at 9:03am:
How about with a 120 grain bullet in a 28/30 Hank45


hank - you need to carefully reread the posts in this thread, it's all been outlined for you more than once.  here it is yet again and just for you ...

Trail Boss was designed primarily for reduced loads using lead bullets in pistol cartridges. 

However, Trail Boss offers superb versatility in rifle cartridges producing reduced loads using lead or jacketed bullets.

These reduced loads make firing such cartridges as the 300 Winchester Magnum or even the 458 Winchester Magnum pure fun!

If you don't see Trail Boss data for your favorite cartridge we have a formula for developing loads for all cartridges and it's simple to follow. 

This formula may be used in both rifle and pistol applications:

1) Find where the base of the bullet to be loaded is located in the case and make a mark on the outside of the case at
this location. Then fill the case to that mark with Trail Boss, pour into the scale pan and weigh. This is your
maximum load. Pressures will be below the maximum allowed for this cartridge and perfectly safe to use!

2) Take 70% of this powder charge weight (multiply the maximum load from step 1 by .7), and that is your starting
load.

3) Start with this beginning load and work up to your maximum charge, all the while searching for the most accurate
reduced load.


  

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Reply #33 - Oct 31st, 2014 at 10:16am
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rfd wrote on Oct 31st, 2014 at 9:17am:
Hank45 wrote on Oct 31st, 2014 at 9:03am:
How about with a 120 grain bullet in a 28/30 Hank45


hank - you need to carefully reread the posts in this thread, it's all been outlined for you more than once.  here it is yet again and just for you ...

Trail Boss was designed primarily for reduced loads using lead bullets in pistol cartridges. 

However, Trail Boss offers superb versatility in rifle cartridges producing reduced loads using lead or jacketed bullets.

These reduced loads make firing such cartridges as the 300 Winchester Magnum or even the 458 Winchester Magnum pure fun!

If you don't see Trail Boss data for your favorite cartridge we have a formula for developing loads for all cartridges and it's simple to follow. 

This formula may be used in both rifle and pistol applications:

1) Find where the base of the bullet to be loaded is located in the case and make a mark on the outside of the case at
this location. Then fill the case to that mark with Trail Boss, pour into the scale pan and weigh. This is your
maximum load. Pressures will be below the maximum allowed for this cartridge and perfectly safe to use!

2) Take 70% of this powder charge weight (multiply the maximum load from step 1 by .7), and that is your starting
load.

3) Start with this beginning load and work up to your maximum charge, all the while searching for the most accurate
reduced load.




Hank can re read posts in this thread all day. He will continue to read what I've highlighted. Is it any wonder shooters are trying to use Trail Boss powder in rifle cartridges?  It's a great idea, a powder that fills the case completely and works in all cases with all bullets every time. But it just doesn't work that way.  They are trying to sell their powder. It makes no difference if it works or if it's safe. They want to sell you their powder.

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