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Reply #30 - Sep 29th, 2014 at 4:08pm
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I always count to 5 after sprue hardens
  
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Reply #31 - Sep 29th, 2014 at 4:56pm
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Hiwall55 wrote on Sep 29th, 2014 at 3:00pm:
I bought it used and it's always had the issue.


How do the vent lines look in the 2 blocks?
Can you post pictures of this mould?
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Re: Hoch mould
Reply #32 - Sep 30th, 2014 at 1:06am
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Bent_Ramrod wrote on Sep 29th, 2014 at 3:42pm:
Hochs are sometimes a little tricky.  Loosening the bolts on the top and bottom plate assembly slightly (don't forget to tighten nuts afterwards) sometimes does wonders for fillout.  There's a lot of mass there, so it needs to run hot, but of course when you are into the rhythm, it can also get too hot.  


I agree 100%.  I cast my Hoch and Paul Jones using 30:1 and 20:1 is normally at 825 in the pot.  I hand dip with a Lyman dipper that has been opened up just a tad in the spout.  I have a thermocouple on my mold.  I preheat the mold in the lead pot to about 550 and let it come back down and equalize through the blocks and plates.  My 33 Hoch I cast at  400 mold temp.  I have a let it cool a fuzz between bullets, normally; but can keep a 75 to close to 100 bullets per hour rhythm going. My 25 cal Paul Jones runs at 465 mold temp.  Others such as 45 cal 550 grs run about 25 degrees lighter in the pot and in the low 400s on the mold. Never below 775 in the pot. Keeping the mold temp +/- 3 degrees will drop nearly every bullet  within .1-.2 gr on the 33s.  

I usually throw the first bullet cast back when I start; just feels good to have a fouler I guess Shocked  I inspect every bullet as it comes out, especially the base.  If there is a problem, it will normally be my mold is too hot, going too fast and a fin starting or debris (lead contamination) on the base plate.  

If you are having trouble, never underestimate the value of "smoking" the mold.  Take a candle holding it so it gets a good layer of smoke in the mold.  Be careful not to contaminate the mold with candle drippings as you maneuver the mold blocks around the candle flame.   
  

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Re: Hoch mould
Reply #33 - Oct 5th, 2014 at 7:35pm
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Ok,got my mold back today from
My buddy,when I got home I re read all posts while the lead pot was getting to temp. I adjusted the sprue plate first, tightening  it and loosening it didn't help so I adjusted it back where it was. Then I used a stone on edge to cut a small vent line😄, instantly improved it. Long story short after 4 micro vent lines  I casted 50 bullets all perfect bases THANKS ALL Bill   Also won 2nd and 3 rd at today's Buffalo shoot   It was a good day all around!
  
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Reply #34 - Oct 5th, 2014 at 8:08pm
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Great. Glad you got it working. When Hoch molds are casting right they are almost a pleasure to use (for those of us who find casting to be a chore).
  

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Reply #35 - Oct 5th, 2014 at 8:11pm
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Great News & Good Shooting.

Congratulations
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Reply #36 - Oct 5th, 2014 at 11:49pm
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The humidity here has been hanging around 70 - 90 % for weeks.  I have to grease my molds with Rig to keep them from rusting and they are stored in a heated shop.  It's a bit of a mess to clean up but it's all I've found that works for long term storage.  My newer custom molds are brass, which solves the problem.
  
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Reply #37 - Nov 26th, 2014 at 6:59pm
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I had the same problem with my 38 55 - 350 grain mold.

I poured some molten lead onto the outside of base of the mold with my dipper to warm up the base.   From then on the bases filled out fine.

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Reply #38 - Nov 26th, 2014 at 7:40pm
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I also use a torch sometimes but find pouring a dipper of lead over the outside of the bottom plate does the trick.  You can, provided that the mold bottom is dry and free of dirt, lay it on top of the lead to keep it up to temperature.  This is the method I use and it works for me.
  

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Re: Hoch mould
Reply #39 - Nov 26th, 2014 at 10:12pm
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Stockerman,
Put those molds into GI ammo cans along with 
either dessicant bag or, as I do, with VPI rust 
preventative paper you can get from Brownells
I have stored my many molds this way w/o oiling or
greasing for over 58 years of casting.   
(I hate the idea of putting something on my molds
that I know i need to remove thoroughly when I want to cast with them.) Saves a lot of "degreasting time"
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