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Reply #15 - Sep 28th, 2014 at 9:16pm
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Never found the need to oil a mould out my way, are you in a location where rust is a real concern?

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Reply #16 - Sep 28th, 2014 at 9:20pm
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JLouis wrote on Sep 28th, 2014 at 9:16pm:
Never found the need to oil a mould out my way, are you in a location where rust is a real concern?

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Do you oil the bore of your rifle??
Same reason-
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Reply #17 - Sep 28th, 2014 at 9:35pm
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Well I must say you lost me on your responce. I do indeed maintain my rifles bore but oiling the interior of my moulds while not having any rust concerns is not something I do nor would I recommend it to others. In my case it would be like trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist but it would be interesting hearing from others on the matter.

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Reply #18 - Sep 28th, 2014 at 9:40pm
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I do the same with my moulds. I don't oil them after use, but put them in the military ammo boxes with a container of desiccant in the box. Never have had any problems storing that way.
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Reply #19 - Sep 28th, 2014 at 9:49pm
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Thanks Bob, I keep mine in the safe with the rifles and all though the safe is some what exposed to the seasonal and daily temp. changes rust have never been an issue to date.

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Reply #20 - Sep 28th, 2014 at 9:51pm
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I spray mine with WD-40 for storage.
Flush'em with brake cleaner before use.
I have no casting issues--My alloy is 30:1(lead/tin)
OP-You have not answered any of my questions about your casting procedures. What is that alloy temp? How are you preheating the mould? How do you confirm your alloy temp?
Please reread what John Boy posted--
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Reply #21 - Sep 28th, 2014 at 9:53pm
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When it comes to molds, I'm a clean freak. I never oil them. If I don't put anything in them, I don't have to take anything out of them to get them to cast.

When I get a new, or a new to me mold, I wash them with Borax and a toothe brush and then cast. After using them, I just keep then at room temp in the house (my loading room is in the house) and I live in Oregon so, there is some humidity.

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Reply #22 - Sep 29th, 2014 at 4:07am
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25 to 1,Alloy temp. 775 degrees, preheat molds on top lip of pot, temp checked with digital thermometer always in mix, ladle pour, and the one thing I would never do is put oil on my moulds.ihave some Paul jones moulds that are 20 years old , no rust on them , never oiled them and when I get them out to cast they run every time.
  
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Reply #23 - Sep 29th, 2014 at 5:21am
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mes wrote on Sep 28th, 2014 at 7:06am:
I have had several molds that would not fill out the base consistently.  All base pour. 

I would take a fine Norton 2 x 8 inch stone and lightly run it across the top edge of both sides of the mould blocks (which in my case is the base of the bullet) at a 45 degree angle and make a very small vent line.  That usually cured the problem. 


What mes says. I use a fine mill file. When a mold will not fill out, the cavity is too air tight. Needs a place for the hot air to escape as the alloy fills the cavity. Best venting is done on the edge of the mold as mes points out. Works perfectly on base pour or nose pour molds. 

My molds get dirty from casting. Dross in the alloy builds up in sharp corners and at the burr at the edge of the cavity. Often causing bullets to stick. I use a small steel hand brush to clean the cavity. Seldom oil a mold, never leave a bullet in them when stored.  

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Reply #24 - Sep 29th, 2014 at 7:09am
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What are the pros & cons re. leaving a bullet in a mould during storage?
  

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Reply #25 - Sep 29th, 2014 at 8:17am
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Hiwall55 wrote on Sep 29th, 2014 at 4:07am:
25 to 1,Alloy temp. 775 degrees, preheat molds on top lip of pot, temp checked with digital thermometer always in mix, ladle pour, and the one thing I would never do is put oil on my moulds.ihave some Paul jones moulds that are 20 years old , no rust on them , never oiled them and when I get them out to cast they run every time.

Not sure why you are having the problem with your Hoch, as that pretty much duplicates my procedure & TC, etc. To be more specific, I place the mold on the lip of the pot while both are cold and then let the pot stay at full temp for about 20min to insure all is at temp before the first pour. It usually takes about 5 bullets to get all my molds to consistent weight except the Hoch, which takes 10-15. But, believe the real key with the Hoch is to cast as fast as you can to keep it hot.
  

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Reply #26 - Sep 29th, 2014 at 8:35am
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Glenn,sounds like we cast the same, out of about 80 moulds this is the only one to give me fits. It's also the only Hoch but with all the helpful advice I got I should be able to fix it. Any the mighty Mississippi is calling. Bill
  
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Reply #27 - Sep 29th, 2014 at 2:27pm
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Hiwall55 wrote on Sep 29th, 2014 at 4:07am:
25 to 1,Alloy temp. 775 degrees, preheat molds on top lip of pot, temp checked with digital thermometer always in mix, ladle pour, and the one thing I would never do is put oil on my moulds.ihave some Paul jones moulds that are 20 years old , no rust on them , never oiled them and when I get them out to cast they run every time.


Has this one mould always had this issue? Or did it just start?
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Reply #28 - Sep 29th, 2014 at 3:00pm
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I bought it used and it's always had the issue.
  
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Reply #29 - Sep 29th, 2014 at 3:42pm
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Hochs are sometimes a little tricky.  Loosening the bolts on the top and bottom plate assembly slightly (don't forget to tighten nuts afterwards) sometimes does wonders for fillout.  There's a lot of mass there, so it needs to run hot, but of course when you are into the rhythm, it can also get too hot.  I keep my lead pot in a large square pan that I guess was used to catch grease drips and splashes in an oven, which does the same for most of the lead spatters.  I turn the sprue plate over after the sprue hardens and press it against the lip of the pan for a couple seconds to drain off the heat a little.  This seems to help the smears which might accrue from cutting half-hard sprues.
  
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