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Electric powder measure
Sep 25th, 2014 at 10:21pm
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To night after reloading a number of cases. I emptied the powder tube.  I was very suprised at the amount of powder that was stuck to the side of the hopper.  The hopper was dry to start.  It seamed as if powder was painted to the inside.  Has any one else had this happen, or how to avoid this.  Even a few grains of the wrong powder could cause proplems.  it seams as if it was static charged.
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Re: Electric powder measure
Reply #1 - Sep 25th, 2014 at 11:11pm
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I know of one instance where a Model 70 Winchester was blown up.  It happened to someone I know.  He had been reloading pistol cartridges using an electric measure with a fast powder and then switched to rifle cartridges. I forget the powders or the cartridge.  Apparently, he hadn't picked up the powder measure and dumped the dispensing tube, just emptied the cylinder.  At any rate, it seems that there was enough of the pistol powder left in the tube that when added to the rifle powder charge, it created an overload heavy enough to blow up the action.  From the looks of it it's lucky he wasn't hurt except for his hearing for awhile. 
  
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Reply #2 - Sep 26th, 2014 at 7:34am
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sportslube wrote on Sep 25th, 2014 at 10:21pm:
To night after reloading a number of cases. I emptied the powder tube.  I was very suprised at the amount of powder that was stuck to the side of the hopper.  The hopper was dry to start.  It seamed as if powder was painted to the inside.  Has any one else had this happen, or how to avoid this.  Even a few grains of the wrong powder could cause proplems.  it seams as if it was static charged.
thanks in advance.
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The coating of powder on the inside of the hopper would almost certainly be held there by an electrostatic charge. Evidently the machine is made from the wrong sort of plastic - electrostatic charges and powder should not mix...

I'm old-fashioned - unless it's black powder (and usually it is...), I weigh every charge using a laboratory balance.

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Reply #3 - Sep 26th, 2014 at 7:41am
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JS47 wrote on Sep 25th, 2014 at 11:11pm:
I know of one instance where a Model 70 Winchester was blown up.  It happened to someone I know.  He had been reloading pistol cartridges using an electric measure with a fast powder and then switched to rifle cartridges. I forget the powders or the cartridge.  Apparently, he hadn't picked up the powder measure and dumped the dispensing tube, just emptied the cylinder.  At any rate, it seems that there was enough of the pistol powder left in the tube that when added to the rifle powder charge, it created an overload heavy enough to blow up the action.  From the looks of it it's lucky he wasn't hurt except for his hearing for awhile. 


You can seriously upset the strength of the charge if you use rifle primers instead of pistol ones (in a pistol round) T'other way round is less risky.

On the subject of measures, yesterday I bought a lovely little flask for charging the pan of a flintlock. It needs a bit of attention because about an inch of the seam on one side has opened, but that's no great problem.

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Re: Electric powder measure
Reply #4 - Sep 26th, 2014 at 9:19am
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The cause of the powder sticking to the inside of the hopper / powder bottles is almost always static. There are some remedies the best I have found is to rub very fine graphite into the inside surfaces of the hopper or bottle. With an electric measure I would make sure that the thing is well grounded. I am out on a limb here, as I have never used one of these electric measures I don’t have an extension cord long enough to get to my bench.

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Re: Electric powder measure
Reply #5 - Jan 1st, 2015 at 9:06pm
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I have had some success wiping the plastic with the dryer fabric softer sheets.  I have also used the antistatic spray my wife had on hand for clothes. I did not think it would be good top spray the plastic directly. I sprayed the antistatic spray on a rag and then wiped the plastic.
  
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Reply #6 - Jan 1st, 2015 at 9:51pm
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When changing powders I empty the device and the use a compressed air can to get the whole system clean.  Then I wipe down the hopper with a dryer no-cling sheet.  A box of these will last forever' one sheet may last forever.   

I'm using the electronic dispenser less and less, my Harrell measure is just so accurate and fast.   

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Re: Electric powder measure
Reply #7 - Jan 1st, 2015 at 10:45pm
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I've never used an electronic powder measure, but I've always had issues with my RCBS powder measure, and powder residue in the hopper. I simply remove it from the bench and clean the inside before changing powders.
  

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Reply #8 - Jan 1st, 2015 at 11:31pm
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40_Rod has it. About 40 years ago I bought an inexpensive balance that had a plastic pan. Powder stuck to it. I rubbed graphite all over it. Problem solved. I then rubbed graphite on every plastic item that touches powder: funnels, hoppers etc. When I switched to electronic 15 years ago, I applied graphite before the first use. No cling. 

My electronic measure has a three pin electrical cord. I checked the resistance between the round ground pin and each of the exposed metal bits (screw heads, etc.) with the unit unplugged from the wall and got a reading of zero, so I think the ground is OK. Not an expert on that part.

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Reply #9 - Jan 2nd, 2015 at 9:33am
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My electronic measure has a three pin electrical cord. I checked the resistance between the round ground pin and each of the exposed metal bits (screw heads, etc.) with the unit unplugged from the wall and got a reading of zero, so I think the ground is OK. Not an expert on that part.

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Good measurement.
The three conductors are the Hot (Line; black), Neutral or ground (white or gray), and Grounding (green - the round pin connector).
The grounding should be connected to the case or frame of the instrument.   
A Zero ohms reading indicates a good connection.

Good comment on graphite!  I'll have to use it.
  

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Reply #10 - Jan 2nd, 2015 at 8:25pm
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Thanks, C_W. I was hoping that I was on the right track.

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